32-bit capable DACs, Split from: "WASAPI plug-in version 3.0 beta" (94907) Options

[SoNic67]

I don't know why people obsess about 32 bit "support" when their device manufacturer clearly states that that format is not supported. The DAC chips included on Xonar soundcards are regular 24 bit chips...
IMO, 32 bit is a worthless waste of space, all the '32 bit capable' DAC chips existent today have actual resolution less than 24 bit. Their catalog data is equal or even less than the top-of-the-line 24 bit DAC.
It's just shamless marketing and amazingly, enough people bite the bait.
The new beta plug-in (ver 2) works fine on E-MU 1820 w/ Win7 x64 and foobar ver 1.1.12 beta 6.

This post has been edited by SoNic67: May 26 2012, 01:04

[naturfreak]

It ist even worse in the case microphones are involved, because the output signal of a average microphone without amplifier is only around -40 dBm, but the noise level is at around -130 dBm. Therefore 90 dB S/N is the best you can get in this case.
Amplifers produce additional noise. You simply can't lower the level of noise by using amplifiers.

[IgorC]

It ist even worse in the case microphones are involved, because the output signal of a average microphone without amplifier is only around -40 dBm, but the noise level is at around -130 dBm. Therefore 90 dB S/N is the best you can get in this case.
Amplifers produce additional noise. You simply can't lower the level of noise by using amplifiers.

Ouch You have just messed up dBm and dB again.

The noise level in a good silent studio is around (well, it's already pretty ideally) -120 dB, not -120 dBm. Because -120dBm is much less than -120dB (-120 dBm = -150dB -> it's too low for real-life noise).

This post has been edited by IgorC: May 26 2012, 22:57

[2Bdecided]

The noise level in a good silent studio is around (well, it's already pretty ideally) -120 dB

That's useful! "-120dB" means "one million times smaller than" - so "the noise level in a good silent studio is around one millions times smaller than..." what?!

FWIW I don't know of any studios that are sound proofed down to 0dB SPL across the audible range (around 20dB SPL is a common target, rarely reached across the board) - but even if they exist, you'd better hope that the musicians don't ruin it by breathing.

Cheers,
David.

[IgorC]

but even if they exist, you'd better hope that the musicians don't ruin it by breathing.

Breathing can be part of recorded program. So your treament of it like some unwanted noise is wrong.

Oh, I thought you were telling someone they weren't using "dB" correctly, before giving an example that was incorrect by a factor of one million.

Overplayed.
Show me where my statement was by a factor of one million time wrong.

I think You can apply now your criticism to your very own post.

This post has been edited by IgorC: May 30 2012, 01:39