Best bitrate for online streaming (aka internet radio). |
Best bitrate for online streaming (aka internet radio). |
May 30 2012, 19:10
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Group: Members Posts: 727 Joined: 23-November 04 Member No.: 18295 |
I know that for most of us, as storage capacities have increased we've generally become less concerned about being economic with the bit rates of our encoded music formats. One area however where I"m still kinda interested in bit rate economy is when listening to internet streamed music such as "internet radio". The reason is simple, I've only got 10GB/month downloads and I'd prefer to not use more than about 30% of this for online listening, particularly as it's something that I'm often just using as "background" music.
With that said, what bit-rates to others here find suitable for online radio purposes. Personally I seem to find 64 kbps HE-AAC to be roughly equivalent to FM radio, though that's only a subjective judgement. Just wondering if anyone knew of any tests to establish what codec/bitrates are roughly equivalent FM radio for typical music listening purposes? Thanks. |
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Jun 11 2012, 17:58
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Group: Members Posts: 727 Joined: 23-November 04 Member No.: 18295 |
I felt bad about so many subjective opinions in the previous post, so I just made a few blind comparisons. Sorry it's very brief but I only had limited time. I wanted to compare aac(sbr) 64kbps (nero @q-0.25 as that's the only encoder I've got) with various bit rates mp3s, upping the bit rate until my blind "which I prefer" picks became random. In the end though I only tested Lame(3.99r) at V9 (69 kbps) and -V7 (99 kbps) against the aac (sbr at 65 kbps).
With lame -V9 (about 69kbps) it was 100% (essentially no randomness) that I preferred the aac. With lame -V7 (which was about 100kbps) it became pretty random as to which I chose as "best" each trial. Admittedly it was a very limited test, but it did tend to back up the notion that aac-sbr at 64kbps is roughly similar quality to mp3 at around 100 kbps. At least to my ears. |
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uart Best bitrate for online streaming (aka internet radio). May 30 2012, 19:10
DVDdoug I don't normaly listen to Internet radio, but.... May 30 2012, 20:00
uart QUOTE (DVDdoug @ May 30 2012, 12:00) It... May 30 2012, 20:38
uart QUOTE (DVDdoug @ May 30 2012, 12:00) I do... May 30 2012, 21:03
nagual http://www.977music.com/channels2/oldies/wmplayero... May 30 2012, 23:17
uart QUOTE (nagual @ May 30 2012, 14:17) http:... May 31 2012, 18:11
zerowalker Shouldn´t be, Same hardware should give the same s... May 30 2012, 23:21
LithosZA Depends on what bandwdith I have available:
192Kb... May 31 2012, 15:00
mixminus1 Years ago, the standard Nullsoft Shoutcast Winamp ... May 31 2012, 15:54
pdq QUOTE (mixminus1 @ May 31 2012, 10:54) Ye... May 31 2012, 16:49
nagual QUOTE (LithosZA @ May 31 2012, 16:00) Per... May 31 2012, 16:29
mixminus1 I suspect it was more like the developers didn... May 31 2012, 17:07
LithosZA Radio Paradise is my favourite station. A *very* w... May 31 2012, 19:22
uart QUOTE (LithosZA @ May 31 2012, 10:22) Rad... May 31 2012, 19:34
Brazil2 Many available formats and bitrates at Absolute Ra... May 31 2012, 20:19
Stone Free QUOTE (Brazil2 @ May 31 2012, 20:19) Many... Jun 11 2012, 15:49
uart QUOTE (psycho @ Jun 7 2012, 07:29) Anothe... Jun 11 2012, 17:07
Brazil2 QUOTE (Stone Free @ Jun 11 2012, 16:49) A... Jun 12 2012, 17:11
Stone Free QUOTE (uart @ Jun 11 2012, 17:07) QUOTE (... Jun 14 2012, 15:59
LithosZA QUOTE Could you comment on how you find the qualit... May 31 2012, 20:22
uart Here's another really nice one streaming 64kpb... Jun 1 2012, 18:15
henrypinks QUOTE (uart @ Jun 1 2012, 09:15) Here... Jun 6 2012, 21:19
IgorC Hopefully new codec Opus will hit 1.0 soon. A kin... Jun 1 2012, 18:43
uart QUOTE (IgorC @ Jun 1 2012, 09:43) Hopeful... Jun 1 2012, 18:55
IgorC Well, that 64 kbps test is already outdated. And O... Jun 1 2012, 19:09
uart A couple of issues after listening to online ... Jun 3 2012, 14:36
[JAZ] QUOTE (uart @ Jun 3 2012, 15:36) Most of ... Jun 3 2012, 18:18
uart QUOTE I have, in playback options, the settings +3... Jun 3 2012, 18:22
psycho Another good-sounding 64 kbps AAC radio stream: HA... Jun 7 2012, 16:29
IgorC You can try Apple HE-AAC encoder. It's better ... Jun 11 2012, 19:01![]() ![]() |
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