Are high sample rates better for DSP? |
Are high sample rates better for DSP? |
Jun 10 2012, 20:13
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I've read many times that audio plug-ins such as equalizers work better at higher sample rates, even if audio generally doesn't benefit. It seems unlikely that there's a practical advantage to up-sampling all your files, or recording at 96 KHz in the first place, but is there a potential theoretical improvement? Or is this just another Internet myth?
--Ethan -------------------- I believe in Truth, Justice, and the Scientific Method
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Jun 12 2012, 17:59
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I know the unofficial mantra around here is all things sound the same unless proven otherwise, but all I can say is wow, just wow. When I was an engineer we always joked about something working on an infinite sample of one.
You've tested a couple of DSP operations on extremely trivial single-tone samples and are now willing to make such a sweeping generalization?!? I hope you don't plan on presenting this in public as things might get more than a little embarrassing for you. This post has been edited by greynol: Jun 12 2012, 18:48 -------------------- Everything sounds the same until it is proven otherwise.
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Jun 12 2012, 19:35
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You've tested a couple of DSP operations on extremely trivial single-tone samples and are now willing to make such a sweeping generalization?!? No plans to present this in public. I posted this question because a friend asked me about it and I wasn't sure, so I figured I'd ask the experts. Me, I'll be satisfied to hear a good explanation of why EQ works better on 96 KHz audio files than files at 44.1 KHz. I'll be even happier to see an FFT or other data, or even a pair of audio files to compare. Whaddya got? --Ethan -------------------- I believe in Truth, Justice, and the Scientific Method
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Ethan Winer Are high sample rates better for DSP? Jun 10 2012, 20:13
knutinh The higher the sample-rate, the better any approxi... Jun 10 2012, 20:46
lvqcl Here is an example of such filter (with explanatio... Jun 10 2012, 20:56
benski Yes, many filters work better with higher sampling... Jun 10 2012, 21:17
Ethan Winer QUOTE (knutinh @ Jun 10 2012, 15:46) The ... Jun 11 2012, 17:18
saratoga If your software is good, it should be upsampling ... Jun 11 2012, 17:53
drewfx QUOTE (Ethan Winer @ Jun 11 2012, 12:18) ... Jun 11 2012, 19:11
Ethan Winer QUOTE (saratoga @ Jun 11 2012, 12:53) If ... Jun 12 2012, 17:46
extrabigmehdi QUOTE (Ethan Winer @ Jun 12 2012, 16:46) ... Jun 12 2012, 18:15
xnor Many EQs use simple bilinear-transformed filters (... Jun 11 2012, 01:37
Woodinville In addition to the warping one sees in a bilinear ... Jun 11 2012, 01:46
extrabigmehdi That's interesting, so basically if you want ... Jun 11 2012, 02:30
bandpass QUOTE (knutinh @ Jun 10 2012, 20:46) The ... Jun 11 2012, 08:00
knutinh QUOTE (bandpass @ Jun 11 2012, 09:00) Tru... Jun 11 2012, 08:30
bandpass From a practical perspective, a particular effect/... Jun 11 2012, 09:59
knutinh QUOTE (bandpass @ Jun 11 2012, 10:59) ...... Jun 11 2012, 11:55
drewfx QUOTE (Ethan Winer @ Jun 12 2012, 14:35) ... Jun 12 2012, 20:29
saratoga QUOTE (Ethan Winer @ Jun 12 2012, 14:35) ... Jun 12 2012, 21:12
Ethan Winer Thanks Drew for some hard evidence. Can you explai... Jun 12 2012, 22:46

benski It's mostly that the shape (aka Q) is going to... Jun 12 2012, 23:39

drewfx QUOTE (Ethan Winer @ Jun 12 2012, 17:46) ... Jun 13 2012, 01:52

andy o I'm guessing these are the reasons why A/V rec... Jun 13 2012, 03:27


Arnold B. Krueger QUOTE (andy o @ Jun 12 2012, 22:27) I... Jun 25 2012, 13:10


Woodinville QUOTE (Arnold B. Krueger @ Jun 25 2012, 05... Jun 27 2012, 21:59

Ethan Winer QUOTE (drewfx @ Jun 12 2012, 20:52) The 1... Jun 13 2012, 19:55
Woodinville QUOTE (saratoga @ Jun 12 2012, 13:12) QUO... Jun 13 2012, 01:22
greynol Have you read the responses to your topic?
I want... Jun 12 2012, 19:42
greynol As for the "it's best to record at 96kHz ... Jun 13 2012, 00:53![]() ![]() |
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