If the output is digital does the player make any difference to the so |
If the output is digital does the player make any difference to the so |
Jul 31 2012, 00:21
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I'm wondering whether if you had two media playing pieces of hardware outputting digital music would the quality of the device make any difference? For example say you had a cheap-to-mid range android phone or mp3 player playing a flac file and outputting over HDMI to a receiver, and a higher spec digital media player like say the Olive 06HD playing the same flac file output over HDMI to a receiver would you hear/should there theoretically even be any difference in audio quality?
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db579 If the output is digital does the player make any difference to the so Jul 31 2012, 00:21
xnor I'd say that if you stay in the digital domain... Jul 31 2012, 01:05
db579 Wouldn't jitter occur in the DAC process if at... Jul 31 2012, 01:13
xnor I think with HDMI it's entirely in the 'ha... Jul 31 2012, 01:18
db579 Same thing for digital optical? Jul 31 2012, 01:50
hlloyge I think it's the same with all modern devices ... Jul 31 2012, 07:33
probedb Plus from reading around here, if you can actually... Jul 31 2012, 08:15
db579 So with that in mind if you wanted portable audiop... Jul 31 2012, 13:56
Nessuno QUOTE (db579 @ Jul 31 2012, 14:56) if you... Jul 31 2012, 14:09
Kohlrabi QUOTE (db579 @ Jul 31 2012, 14:56) So wit... Jul 31 2012, 14:14
skamp QUOTE (db579 @ Jul 31 2012, 14:56) So wit... Jul 31 2012, 14:21
greynol QUOTE (db579 @ Jul 31 2012, 05:56) a good... Jul 31 2012, 15:30
Arnold B. Krueger QUOTE (db579 @ Jul 31 2012, 08:56) So wit... Aug 2 2012, 18:35
db579 I'm asking more out of theoretical interest th... Jul 31 2012, 15:36
xnor I think that portable players can easily sound bet... Jul 31 2012, 15:39
greynol The answer is yes, it is possible to get the same ... Jul 31 2012, 15:43
xnor QUOTE (greynol @ Jul 31 2012, 16:43) To d... Jul 31 2012, 16:54
db579 Interesting responses and not what I expected, tha... Jul 31 2012, 15:48
skamp The O2/ODAC is a portable DAC + headphone amp that... Jul 31 2012, 16:46
db579 Thanks guys, really appreciate the detailed and he... Jul 31 2012, 18:01
DVDdoug QUOTE xnor - He seems to suggest that the response... Jul 31 2012, 19:12
xnor QUOTE (DVDdoug @ Jul 31 2012, 20:12) It d... Jul 31 2012, 20:07

andy o QUOTE (xnor @ Jul 31 2012, 12:07) I don... Aug 1 2012, 15:46

xnor For example the Yamaha RX-V3900 was measured to ha... Aug 1 2012, 16:37

andy o QUOTE (xnor @ Aug 1 2012, 08:37) For exam... Aug 1 2012, 20:34
mzil QUOTE (DVDdoug @ Jul 31 2012, 14:12) ...D... Jul 31 2012, 20:41
greynol Identical numbers are fine and dandy, but they don... Jul 31 2012, 20:08
db579 QUOTE (xnor @ Jul 31 2012, 20:07) Very fe... Jul 31 2012, 21:14
yourlord All things being equal, the delivered data should ... Jul 31 2012, 22:33
xnor QUOTE (yourlord @ Jul 31 2012, 23:33) [..... Jul 31 2012, 23:21

Roseval QUOTE (xnor @ Jul 31 2012, 23:21) Unlike ... Aug 1 2012, 18:13

xnor QUOTE (Roseval @ Aug 1 2012, 19:13) As an... Aug 1 2012, 18:34

greynol QUOTE (xnor @ Aug 1 2012, 10:34) I guess ... Aug 1 2012, 18:40
mzil The signal the HDMI output sends gets transfered p... Aug 1 2012, 00:16
yourlord QUOTE (mzil @ Jul 31 2012, 19:16) The sig... Aug 1 2012, 03:33
mzil ^Do you have any evidence that level is audible to... Aug 1 2012, 17:07
xnor Nope and that's why I didn't make that cla... Aug 1 2012, 17:17
pdq QUOTE (xnor @ Aug 1 2012, 12:17) Nope and... Aug 1 2012, 19:51
Arnold B. Krueger QUOTE (xnor @ Aug 1 2012, 12:17) Nope and... Aug 2 2012, 18:50
mzil If you are allowed to turn up the volume and liste... Aug 1 2012, 17:31
greynol Do DACs matter?
Perhaps, but if you can't dem... Aug 1 2012, 17:59
Roseval QUOTE If frames need to arrive every ms but do not... Aug 1 2012, 18:50
Arnold B. Krueger QUOTE (Roseval @ Aug 1 2012, 13:50) QUOTE... Aug 2 2012, 18:41
greynol How about the word horrible?
EDIT: Just saw your ... Aug 1 2012, 20:38
xnor As I said, isochronous (adaptive) transfer can wor... Aug 2 2012, 18:50
Arnold B. Krueger QUOTE (xnor @ Aug 2 2012, 13:50) As I sai... Aug 2 2012, 18:55
xnor QUOTE (Arnold B. Krueger @ Aug 2 2012, 19... Aug 2 2012, 21:21
saratoga QUOTE (xnor @ Aug 2 2012, 16:21) QUOTE (A... Aug 2 2012, 21:28
xnor QUOTE (saratoga @ Aug 2 2012, 22:28) What... Aug 2 2012, 21:38
saratoga QUOTE (xnor @ Aug 2 2012, 16:38) On my ol... Aug 2 2012, 21:44

xnor QUOTE (saratoga @ Aug 2 2012, 22:44) I... Aug 2 2012, 21:57

saratoga QUOTE (xnor @ Aug 2 2012, 16:57) QUOTE (s... Aug 5 2012, 00:55

phofman QUOTE (saratoga @ Aug 5 2012, 01:55) No, ... Aug 5 2012, 21:03

[JAZ] QUOTE (phofman @ Aug 5 2012, 22:03) Actua... Aug 5 2012, 21:40

xnor QUOTE ([JAZ] @ Aug 5 2012, 22:40)... Aug 5 2012, 23:39
Arnold B. Krueger QUOTE (xnor @ Aug 2 2012, 16:38) QUOTE (s... Aug 3 2012, 13:15
xnor QUOTE (Arnold B. Krueger @ Aug 3 2012, 14... Aug 3 2012, 15:01
probedb QUOTE (xnor @ Aug 3 2012, 15:01) Right, i... Aug 3 2012, 16:25

xnor QUOTE (probedb @ Aug 3 2012, 17:25) You m... Aug 3 2012, 16:55

Arnold B. Krueger QUOTE (xnor @ Aug 3 2012, 11:55) QUOTE (p... Aug 3 2012, 16:59
Arnold B. Krueger QUOTE (xnor @ Aug 3 2012, 10:01) QUOTE (A... Aug 3 2012, 16:55

xnor QUOTE (Arnold B. Krueger @ Aug 3 2012, 17... Aug 3 2012, 17:19

Arnold B. Krueger QUOTE (xnor @ Aug 3 2012, 12:19) QUOTE (A... Aug 3 2012, 22:26

xnor QUOTE (Arnold B. Krueger @ Aug 3 2012, 23... Aug 3 2012, 22:38

Arnold B. Krueger QUOTE (xnor @ Aug 3 2012, 17:38) QUOTE (A... Aug 4 2012, 23:43

xnor QUOTE (Arnold B. Krueger @ Aug 5 2012, 00... Aug 5 2012, 00:36

Arnold B. Krueger QUOTE (xnor @ Aug 4 2012, 19:36) QUOTE (A... Aug 6 2012, 08:14
yourlord QUOTE (xnor @ Aug 3 2012, 10:01) All I... Aug 3 2012, 17:17
xnor QUOTE (yourlord @ Aug 3 2012, 18:17) That... Aug 3 2012, 17:28
greynol ...and poor subject/verb agreement, lol. Aug 2 2012, 18:58
Roseval A test by Jim Lesurf: http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/L... Aug 2 2012, 19:05
Arnold B. Krueger QUOTE (Roseval @ Aug 2 2012, 14:05) A tes... Aug 2 2012, 19:26
[JAZ] @ xnor: That example does not apply.
I do have hi... Aug 2 2012, 22:13
xnor QUOTE ([JAZ] @ Aug 2 2012, 23:13)... Aug 2 2012, 22:35
Roseval It is very simple.
USB Audio is a isochronous stre... Aug 4 2012, 09:43
db579 Thanks for that Roseval really clear helpful expla... Aug 4 2012, 16:29
Roseval Thanks
There are a couple of exiting developments... Aug 4 2012, 21:22
db579 @roseval So am I right in thinking this would be i... Aug 5 2012, 15:02
Roseval The USB DACs being UAC1 or UAC2 compliant (use the... Aug 5 2012, 17:14
phofman If you raise playback buffer/playback latency, wil... Aug 6 2012, 17:43
[JAZ] phofman: Yes and no.
With windows Vista and upwa... Aug 6 2012, 19:00
phofman QUOTE ([JAZ] @ Aug 6 2012, 20:00)... Aug 6 2012, 20:19
[JAZ] QUOTE (phofman @ Aug 6 2012, 21:19) DPC i... Aug 6 2012, 22:08
phofman QUOTE Yes, that says the maximum has been 19 milli... Aug 7 2012, 11:46
Roseval Maybe this link is of use: http://www.rme-audio.de... Aug 6 2012, 22:43![]() ![]() |
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