Audio from vinyl (24 / 96-192 khz). Converting/downsampling? |
Audio from vinyl (24 / 96-192 khz). Converting/downsampling? |
Aug 27 2012, 03:01
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Hi again
I have several digitized vinyls in FLAC, at 24 bit, 96-192 khz. Is it worth all that sample rate? I was thinking of making CD quality (16/44.1) FLACs or even mp3 320. I doubt I'll ever in my life spend more than, idk, 200 usd in headphones, so the over-quality looks a waste. What do you say? I'm far from an audiophile and I feel pretty happy with mp3 320 (I can't even tell from FLAC). Anyway, I need to re-encode that at least for my mobile devices. Should I have any special care when converting? I use fre:ac (LAME 3.99.5). Should I just set 44.1 khz when encoding there and done? Or should I downsample with another tool and then encode? I just tried encoding something setting 44.1 in LAME and the result sounds the same as the original 24/192 (with my crappy headphones at least). The same goes for FLAC or ogg (I tend to use the latter for my DAP). Just setting the sample rate when encoding is enough or is it better to do it with another program? (I doubt, but I wouldn't like regretting later because I made a crappy conversion). Thanks! (maybe this should go in the "vinyl" forum, but my concern is more with those high sample rates and downsampling, regardless the source) |
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Aug 28 2012, 07:09
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Group: Super Moderator Posts: 4345 Joined: 23-June 06 Member No.: 32180 |
It’s a result of one of audio’s many compound myths: the idea that vinyl as a medium has superior support for high-frequency content + the idea that there would be any reason to preserve such frequencies even if it did.
I refer to useful high-frequency content; it has plenty of worthless noise and distortion in those areas, I’m sure. You’re right that 24 bits can be useful/advisable for editing, but implicit in that statement is the fact that such a high bit-depth is unnecessary for delivery/listening. Along these lines, you might be interested in this very good article by Monty of Xiph/Vorbis fame: 24/192 Music Downloads are Very Silly Indeed |
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Taishou Audio from vinyl (24 / 96-192 khz). Converting/downsampling? Aug 27 2012, 03:01
Porcus QUOTE (Taishou @ Aug 27 2012, 04:01) I ha... Aug 27 2012, 06:16
Taishou I see...
Thinking about it I'll stay with FLA... Aug 27 2012, 06:57
Taishou Sorry for the double post, I can't see an ... Aug 27 2012, 08:25
Porcus Go 44.1 or 48, as those are the well-supported sam... Aug 27 2012, 10:14

db1989 QUOTE (Porcus @ Aug 27 2012, 10:14) [Oh .... Aug 27 2012, 14:38
splice QUOTE (Taishou @ Aug 26 2012, 23:25) ... ... Aug 27 2012, 21:37
jensend Try the FAQ for good info and advice. Also this pa... Aug 27 2012, 16:45
benski QUOTE (jensend @ Aug 27 2012, 11:45) The ... Aug 28 2012, 18:37
Woodinville QUOTE (benski @ Aug 28 2012, 10:37) QUOTE... Aug 29 2012, 03:27
krabapple QUOTE (Woodinville @ Aug 28 2012, 22:27) ... Aug 31 2012, 14:08
jensend Oh, BTW: resampling in multiple stages is unlikely... Aug 27 2012, 17:06
Taishou Great answers, thanks. I just read the links you p... Aug 27 2012, 20:56
jensend If you're already using SoX, no reason to not ... Aug 28 2012, 00:09
Taishou QUOTE (splice @ Aug 27 2012, 17:37) QUOTE... Aug 28 2012, 05:40
Porcus QUOTE (Taishou @ Aug 28 2012, 06:40) Afte... Aug 28 2012, 07:42
jensend QUOTE (Taishou @ Aug 27 2012, 22:40) Afte... Aug 28 2012, 17:34
Woodinville There is some use to that over-20kHz stuff, though... Aug 28 2012, 08:16
Arnold B. Krueger QUOTE (Taishou @ Aug 26 2012, 22:01) I ha... Aug 28 2012, 12:40
greynol We had the same inconvenient point raised about th... Aug 28 2012, 20:32
Taishou Thanks for all your input, it's really great ... Aug 29 2012, 02:48
Porcus QUOTE (Taishou @ Aug 29 2012, 03:48) Shou... Aug 29 2012, 15:05
jensend QUOTE (Taishou @ Aug 28 2012, 23:47) If i... Aug 29 2012, 15:13
Taishou If it matters of something, the files with clippin... Aug 29 2012, 06:47
Porcus But ... if the peak measures to 0.999, and the res... Aug 29 2012, 20:43
pdq The resampling produced samples that were beyond +... Aug 29 2012, 21:02
Taishou Well, I decided to leave it as it is.
I tried the... Aug 29 2012, 23:30
greynol Re. compression:
I've seen worse.
At the end ... Aug 29 2012, 23:41
Taishou Indeed. And it's the same on the source, so it... Aug 29 2012, 23:51
Porcus QUOTE (Taishou @ Aug 30 2012, 00:51) it w... Aug 30 2012, 07:35
greynol Could it be due to possible inter-sample overs occ... Aug 30 2012, 02:51
greynol Off-topic discussion on the SNR or MP3 has been sp... Aug 31 2012, 19:48![]() ![]() |
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