"Fake" lossless file from artist's store? |
"Fake" lossless file from artist's store? |
Sep 16 2012, 06:54
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Hi. I bought an ALAC-encoded album from an artists' official homepage a few days back. The file size was a bit smaller than I expected (and the "bitrate" displayed in foobar lower than 90% of my own lossless rips).
So, I checked the filed with this application called Audiochecker 2.0. It reports the rip as being MP3s that have been transcoded into lossless format. I tried the same application on a lot of my own lossless rips, and it reports my own rips as "true" lossless rips. Is there a way to confirm whether the album I bought really is a lossy to lossless transcode or not? I do not own the original CD, so I can't compare that way. |
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Sep 16 2012, 20:50
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It is hard to trust stores. I once bought Propagandhies song Night Matters from their album Support Caste from iTunes and it is clearly encoded from lossy or by subpar encoding even though it is 256kbps AAC. The sound is really "wobly during a guitar riff part" which Spotify's 160 version don't even have.
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Sep 18 2012, 07:09
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It is hard to trust stores. I once bought Propagandhies song Night Matters from their album Support Caste from iTunes and it is clearly encoded from lossy or by subpar encoding even though it is 256kbps AAC. The sound is really "wobly during a guitar riff part" which Spotify's 160 version don't even have. It's quite possible for this to have been encoded from lossless but that it's a problem sample for iTunes/Quicktime AAC encoder, and it might be worth reporting to Apple, as they seem keen to discover and correct problem samples and tune and improve their proprietary encoder and will have the lossless original to compare it against. It's probably encouraging that Ogg Vorbis (used in Spotify) copes well with it. If someone reading has a lossless original of it, it could help to improve encoder tuning to upload a short clip (<30 sec) of part of the wobbly guitar riff part, in accordance with TOS#9, to the Uploads forum. Even at high bitrates, well tuned encoders like Quicktime AAC and LAME VBR still have a few problem samples. This one sounds like it might be the class of sample that I suspect relates to tonal sounds simultaneous with transients (e.g. Angels Fall First sample reported in Uploads forum is one, though 'lead-voice' and 'trumpet_myPrince' are probably worse). |
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pinoniceusagi "Fake" lossless file from artist's store? Sep 16 2012, 06:54
EagleScout1998 This might not be an exact science, but you could ... Sep 16 2012, 07:10
eahm QUOTE (EagleScout1998 @ Sep 15 2012, 23:1... Sep 16 2012, 07:35
pinoniceusagi QUOTE (eahm @ Sep 16 2012, 00:35) QUOTE (... Sep 16 2012, 08:01
eahm Absolutely please, email them. Sep 16 2012, 08:16
pinoniceusagi Alright. I mailed the store selling the digital do... Sep 16 2012, 08:38
eahm You may want to email Amazon, Google and Apple as ... Sep 16 2012, 08:45
pinoniceusagi The lossless version is only sold through the stor... Sep 16 2012, 09:15
pdq QUOTE (pinoniceusagi @ Sep 16 2012, 01:54... Sep 16 2012, 14:25
_mē_ QUOTE (pdq @ Sep 16 2012, 15:25) In gener... Sep 27 2012, 21:31
krafty To the original poster, I need to say that I had a... Sep 16 2012, 18:41
Kohlrabi To be fair, I doubt that you nowadays can be sure ... Sep 16 2012, 19:49
krafty Kohlrabi,
In my case it was a night and day situa... Sep 16 2012, 20:44![]() ![]() |
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