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Beatles remasters soon available on vinyl
2Bdecided
post Sep 28 2012, 11:35
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Stereo 12th / 13th November...
http://thebeatles.com/#/news/Vinyl

Mono coming in 2013.


I'm just waiting for the first claim of how much better they sound than the CDs.

For me, the only vaguely interesting thing is whether these will be cut without peak limiting. Given that they applied the same peak limiting to the 24-bit ultra-expensive USB apple release, I doubt we'll escape it here.


However, it'll (hopefully!) be a much cheaper way of owning and playing Beatles vinyl than tracking down originals, and they'll sound better than most of the 1988 vinyl remasters. (Though for Help and Rubber Soul, they'll be the same masters!). The Beatles website is mostly selling the "experience" of playing vinyl, rather than any actual sonic superiority. How strange for a vinyl press release to be TOS 8 compliant!

Cheers,
David.

P.S. and so it starts...
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linuxglobe on 27th Sep 12: “I just want to own Sgt. Pepper and Abbey Road on audiophile 180 gram vinyl; I have a usb turntable, easily import into my iPhone! I *HEART* Los Beatles!!! biggrin.gif @MarkusMcLaughln
Yeah, 'cause obviously...
digital file > vinyl stamper > vinyl > USB turntable(!!!!) > iTunes > iPhone
will sound better than
digital file > CD > iTunes > iPhone!

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Official technical info on this release...
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Manufactured on 180-gram, audiophile quality vinyl with replicated artwork, the 14 albums return to their original glory with details including the poster in The Beatles (The White Album), the Sgt. Pepper’s Lonely Heart Club Band’s cut-outs, and special inner bags for some of the titles. Each album will be available individually, and accompanied by a stunning, elegantly designed 252-page hardbound book in a lavish boxed edition which is limited to 50,000 copies worldwide.

The book, exclusive to the boxed edition, is authored by award-winning radio producer Kevin Howlett and features a dedicated chapter for each of the albums, as well as insight into the creation of the remasters and how the vinyl albums were prepared. The 12”x12” book showcases a wealth of photographs spanning The Beatles’ recording career, including many images which were not included in the 2009 CD booklets.

The titles include The Beatles’ 12 original UK albums, first released between 1963 and 1970, the US-originated Magical Mystery Tour, now part of the group’s core catalogue, and Past Masters, Volumes One & Two, featuring non-album A-sides and B-sides, EP tracks and rarities.

Since it was recorded, The Beatles’ music has been heard on a variety of formats – from chunky reel-to-reel tapes and eight-track cartridges to invisible computer files. But there has never been a more romantic or thrilling medium for music than a long-playing twelve-inch disc. We ‘play’ records. The process of carefully slipping the disc out of the sleeve, cleaning it and lowering the stylus provides a personal involvement in the reproduction of the music.

In September, 2009, The Beatles’ remastered albums on CD graced charts around the world. Seventeen million album sales within seven months was resounding evidence of the timeless relevance of their legacy. Through five decades, the music of The Beatles has captivated generation upon generation.

For producer Rick Rubin, surveying The Beatles’ recorded achievements is akin to witnessing a miracle. “If we look at it by today’s standards, whoever the most popular bands in the world are, they will typically put out an album every four years,” Rubin said in a 2009 radio series interview. “So, let’s say two albums as an eight year cycle. And think of the growth or change between those two albums. The idea that The Beatles made thirteen albums in seven years and went through that arc of change… it can’t be done. Truthfully, I think of it as proof of God, because it’s beyond man’s ability.”

There has always been demand for The Beatles’ albums on vinyl. Indeed, 2011’s best-selling vinyl LP in the United States was Abbey Road. Following the success of The Beatles’ acclaimed, GRAMMY Award-winning 2009 CD remasters, it was decided that the sound experts at EMI’s Abbey Road Studios should create new versions of The Beatles’ vinyl LPs. The project demanded the same meticulous approach taken for the CD releases, and the brief was a simple one: cut the digital remasters to vinyl with an absolute minimum of compromise to the sound. However, the process involved to do that was far from simple.

The first stage in transferring the sound of a master recording to vinyl is the creation of a disc to be used during vinyl manufacture. There were two options to consider. A Direct Metal Master (DMM), developed in the late seventies, allows sound to be cut directly into a stainless steel disc coated with a hard copper alloy. The older, alternative method is to cut the sound into the soft lacquer coating on a nickel disc – the first of several steps leading to the production of a stamper to press the vinyl.

A ‘blind’ listening test was arranged to choose between a ‘lacquer’ or ‘copper’ cut. Using both methods, A Hard Day’s Night was pressed with ten seconds of silence at the beginning and end of each side. This allowed not only the reproduction of the music to be assessed, but also the noise made by the vinyl itself. After much discussion, two factors swung the decision towards using the lacquer process. First, it was judged to create a warmer sound than a DMM. Secondly, there was a practical advantage of having ‘blank’ discs of a consistent quality when cutting lacquers.

The next step was to use the Neumann VMS80 cutting lathe at Abbey Road. Following thorough mechanical and electrical tests to ensure it was operating in peak condition, engineer Sean Magee cut the LPs in chronological release order. He used the original 24-bit remasters rather than the 16-bit versions that were required for CD production. It was also decided to use the remasters that had not undergone ‘limiting’ – a procedure to increase the sound level, which is deemed necessary for most current pop CDs.

Having made initial test cuts, Magee pinpointed any sound problems that can occur during playback of vinyl records. To rectify them, changes were made to the remasters with a Digital Audio Workstation. For example, each vinyl album was listened to for any ‘sibilant episodes’ – vocal distortion that can occur on consonant sounds such as S and T. These were corrected by reducing the level in the very small portion of sound causing the undesired effect. Similarly, any likelihood of ‘inner-groove distortion’ was addressed. As the stylus approaches the centre of the record, it is liable to track the groove less accurately. This can affect the high-middle frequencies, producing a ‘mushy’ sound particularly noticeable on vocals. Using what Magee has described as ‘surgical EQ,’ problem frequencies were identified and reduced in level to compensate for this.

The last phase of the vinyl mastering process began with the arrival of the first batches of test pressings made from master lacquers that had been sent to the two pressing plant factories. Stringent quality tests identified any noise or click appearing on more than one test pressing in the same place. If this happened, it was clear that the undesired sounds had been introduced either during the cutting or the pressing stage and so the test records were rejected. In the quest to achieve the highest quality possible, the Abbey Road team worked closely with the pressing factories and the manufacturers of the lacquer and cutting styli.

An additional and unusual challenge was to ensure the proper playback of the sounds embedded in the ‘lock-groove’ at the end of side two of Sgt. Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band. Requiring a combination of good timing and luck, it had always been a lengthy and costly process to make it work properly. In fact, it was so tricky, it had never been attempted for American pressings of the LP. Naturally, Sean Magee and the team perfected this and the garbled message is heard as originally intended on the remastered Sgt. Pepper LP.
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- 2Bdecided   Beatles remasters soon available on vinyl   Sep 28 2012, 11:35
- - hlloyge   Aren't the original masters bad sounding, full...   Sep 28 2012, 12:22
|- - markanini   QUOTE (hlloyge @ Sep 28 2012, 13:22) Aren...   Sep 28 2012, 15:44
|- - shakey_snake   QUOTE (hlloyge @ Sep 28 2012, 07:22) Aren...   Sep 29 2012, 03:57
|- - hlloyge   QUOTE (shakey_snake @ Sep 29 2012, 04:57)...   Sep 29 2012, 16:38
- - LordWarlock   Hiss and noise? That's still better than compr...   Sep 28 2012, 12:30
- - derty2   Official technical info on this release... QUOTE M...   Sep 28 2012, 18:35
|- - Blueshirt   QUOTE (derty2 @ Sep 28 2012, 18:35) Offic...   Sep 28 2012, 23:57
- - mzil   Notice the goal was not a nearly indistinguishable...   Sep 29 2012, 04:08
- - punkrockdude   I would like to hear the inner groove distortion t...   Sep 29 2012, 10:34
- - derty2   Recent excerpts from Steve Hoffman forums      --...   Sep 29 2012, 15:22
- - derty2   The original tapes were 'raw' copied to di...   Sep 29 2012, 17:44
- - lvqcl   QUOTE I do not understand why the engineers didn...   Sep 29 2012, 18:10
- - hlloyge   I am not into that. Sell these files, rather than ...   Sep 29 2012, 19:24
- - derty2   Your 'comment' was addressed in 2009, the ...   Sep 29 2012, 19:45
- - _if   QUOTE Having made initial test cuts, Magee pinpoin...   Sep 30 2012, 04:28
|- - Batman321   QUOTE (_if @ Sep 29 2012, 22:28) QUOTE Ha...   Sep 30 2012, 09:25
- - LithosZA   Arghh, just release an un-limited/uncompressed ver...   Sep 30 2012, 10:26
- - 2Bdecided   It's nice they aren't including the peak l...   Oct 1 2012, 10:46
|- - cliveb   QUOTE (2Bdecided @ Oct 1 2012, 10:46) Oth...   Oct 2 2012, 13:54
|- - 2Bdecided   QUOTE (cliveb @ Oct 2 2012, 13:54) QUOTE ...   Oct 2 2012, 16:37
|- - cliveb   QUOTE (2Bdecided @ Oct 2 2012, 16:37) But...   Oct 3 2012, 09:20
- - derty2   To remix or not to remix classic albums - An inter...   Oct 1 2012, 20:01
- - RonaldDumsfeld   Looking forward to hearing the mono versions when ...   Oct 1 2012, 23:13
|- - _if   QUOTE (RonaldDumsfeld @ Oct 1 2012, 18:13...   Oct 2 2012, 06:37
- - greynol   Are you suggesting that MSFL doesn't apply EQ ...   Oct 2 2012, 07:13
|- - _if   I trust the new remasters weren't batch-proces...   Oct 2 2012, 08:27
- - 2Bdecided   I'm only judging from the Beetledrops website ...   Oct 2 2012, 09:27
- - mzil   Regarding EQ, since none of us have heard the mast...   Oct 2 2012, 14:54
|- - 2Bdecided   QUOTE (mzil @ Oct 2 2012, 14:54) Regardin...   Oct 2 2012, 16:41
|- - krabapple   QUOTE (2Bdecided @ Oct 2 2012, 11:41) QUO...   Oct 3 2012, 02:42
|- - 2Bdecided   QUOTE (krabapple @ Oct 3 2012, 02:42) QUO...   Oct 5 2012, 10:00
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|- - mzil   QUOTE (greynol @ Oct 2 2012, 10:13) The p...   Oct 2 2012, 22:48
|- - krabapple   QUOTE (greynol @ Oct 2 2012, 10:13) The p...   Oct 3 2012, 02:35
||- - mzil   QUOTE (krabapple @ Oct 2 2012, 21:35) I d...   Oct 3 2012, 18:52
|- - mzil   QUOTE (greynol @ Oct 2 2012, 10:13) The p...   Oct 3 2012, 18:32
- - greynol   ABX?!? Are we now claiming that different mas...   Oct 2 2012, 22:54
|- - mzil   QUOTE (greynol @ Oct 2 2012, 17:54) ABX?...   Oct 2 2012, 23:59
|- - Porcus   Are you saying that you were not trolling when you...   Oct 3 2012, 00:12
|- - mzil   QUOTE (Porcus @ Oct 2 2012, 19:12) Are yo...   Oct 3 2012, 01:07
|- - Porcus   QUOTE (mzil @ Oct 3 2012, 02:07) QUOTE (P...   Oct 3 2012, 10:18
|- - krabapple   QUOTE (Porcus @ Oct 3 2012, 05:18) Actual...   Oct 3 2012, 19:35
|- - greynol   QUOTE (krabapple @ Oct 3 2012, 11:35) One...   Oct 3 2012, 20:56
|- - mzil   QUOTE (greynol @ Oct 3 2012, 15:56) QUOTE...   Oct 3 2012, 21:42
- - greynol   mzil, I'll gladly show you logs demonstrating...   Oct 3 2012, 00:20
|- - mzil   QUOTE (greynol @ Oct 2 2012, 19:20) mzil,...   Oct 3 2012, 04:54
- - greynol   Here you go: CODEfoo_abx 1.3.1 report foobar2000 v...   Oct 3 2012, 05:29
- - mzil   There's a huge difference in the audio level, ...   Oct 3 2012, 07:13
|- - Porcus   QUOTE (mzil @ Oct 3 2012, 08:13) There...   Oct 3 2012, 08:19
|- - greynol   QUOTE (Porcus @ Oct 3 2012, 00:19) Replay...   Oct 3 2012, 10:42
|- - Porcus   QUOTE (greynol @ Oct 3 2012, 11:42) QUOTE...   Oct 3 2012, 19:55
- - RonaldDumsfeld   QUOTE Looking forward to hearing the mono versions...   Oct 3 2012, 17:00
- - greynol   If you boost the bass and treble, or cut the mids,...   Oct 3 2012, 18:49
|- - Ed Seedhouse   QUOTE (greynol @ Oct 3 2012, 10:49) Wheth...   Oct 4 2012, 16:32
|- - Ed Seedhouse   QUOTE (greynol @ Oct 3 2012, 10:49) Wheth...   Oct 4 2012, 18:39
|- - greynol   QUOTE (Ed Seedhouse @ Oct 4 2012, 10:39) ...   Oct 4 2012, 23:20
- - mzil   ^Exactly.   Oct 3 2012, 19:42
- - greynol   Now you're being pedantic and of course there...   Oct 3 2012, 21:47
|- - mzil   QUOTE (greynol @ Oct 3 2012, 16:47) Were ...   Oct 3 2012, 22:17
||- - greynol   QUOTE (mzil @ Oct 3 2012, 14:17) [*Not su...   Oct 3 2012, 22:19
|- - mzil   QUOTE (greynol @ Oct 3 2012, 16:47) If MF...   Oct 3 2012, 23:11
- - Porcus   For further confusion, throw in the reported DSOTM...   Oct 3 2012, 21:52
|- - godrick   QUOTE (Porcus @ Oct 3 2012, 21:52) For fu...   Oct 4 2012, 00:28
- - greynol   If you apply de-emphasis to the Capitol sample, re...   Oct 3 2012, 22:12
- - greynol   1) Aside attempting to address your comment about ...   Oct 3 2012, 23:15
- - greynol   If there is no topic to bump, feel free to start a...   Oct 4 2012, 00:33
- - krabapple   Do we know that MFSL's versions are typically ...   Oct 4 2012, 05:48
|- - eahm   QUOTE (krabapple @ Oct 3 2012, 21:48) Do ...   Oct 4 2012, 07:24
|- - Batman321   QUOTE (eahm @ Oct 4 2012, 01:24) QUOTE (k...   Oct 4 2012, 08:35
||- - 2Bdecided   QUOTE (Batman321 @ Oct 4 2012, 08:35) Wha...   Oct 5 2012, 10:08
|- - krabapple   QUOTE (eahm @ Oct 4 2012, 02:24) QUOTE (k...   Oct 4 2012, 20:41
- - Batman321   Please go back to the topic.   Oct 4 2012, 19:18
- - krabapple   It occurs to me that I own a number of MFSL CDs......   Oct 4 2012, 20:49
- - 2Bdecided   I just want to tell you, absolutely definitively, ...   Oct 5 2012, 10:16
|- - _if   QUOTE (2Bdecided @ Oct 5 2012, 05:16) You...   Oct 5 2012, 19:47
- - derty2   Sean Magee has confirmed today that the vinyl is c...   Nov 12 2012, 20:19
|- - Batman321   QUOTE (derty2 @ Nov 12 2012, 14:19) Sean ...   Nov 12 2012, 21:12
|- - 2Bdecided   QUOTE (Batman321 @ Nov 12 2012, 20:12) I...   Nov 14 2012, 14:26
- - greynol   It could have been cut from 16/44.1 and no one wou...   Nov 12 2012, 22:15
|- - 2Bdecided   QUOTE (derty2 @ Nov 12 2012, 20:19) Sean ...   Nov 13 2012, 12:56
- - 2Bdecided   It seems many of the copies sold in the US have pr...   Nov 16 2012, 18:15
- - Batman321   Looks like the quality control guys at Rainbo Reco...   Nov 16 2012, 21:03
- - Batman321   warped vinyl lots of clicks and pops scratches wei...   Nov 16 2012, 23:18
|- - Ed Seedhouse   QUOTE (Batman321 @ Nov 16 2012, 14:18) wa...   Nov 17 2012, 00:00
|- - 2Bdecided   QUOTE (Batman321 @ Nov 16 2012, 22:18) no...   Nov 19 2012, 12:51
- - 2Bdecided   The guy who remastered the Beatles vinyl quotes th...   Nov 20 2012, 18:59
|- - Batman321   QUOTE (2Bdecided @ Nov 20 2012, 12:59) Th...   Nov 20 2012, 20:42
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|- - krabapple   QUOTE (2Bdecided @ Nov 20 2012, 13:59) Th...   Nov 21 2012, 15:09
|- - 2Bdecided   QUOTE (krabapple @ Nov 21 2012, 14:09) is...   Nov 22 2012, 12:52
|- - krabapple   QUOTE (2Bdecided @ Nov 22 2012, 07:52) I ...   Nov 23 2012, 10:51
|- - Batman321   QUOTE (krabapple @ Nov 23 2012, 04:51) QU...   Nov 23 2012, 20:06
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