Beatles remasters soon available on vinyl |
Beatles remasters soon available on vinyl |
Sep 28 2012, 11:35
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Stereo 12th / 13th November...
http://thebeatles.com/#/news/Vinyl Mono coming in 2013. I'm just waiting for the first claim of how much better they sound than the CDs. For me, the only vaguely interesting thing is whether these will be cut without peak limiting. Given that they applied the same peak limiting to the 24-bit ultra-expensive USB apple release, I doubt we'll escape it here. However, it'll (hopefully!) be a much cheaper way of owning and playing Beatles vinyl than tracking down originals, and they'll sound better than most of the 1988 vinyl remasters. (Though for Help and Rubber Soul, they'll be the same masters!). The Beatles website is mostly selling the "experience" of playing vinyl, rather than any actual sonic superiority. How strange for a vinyl press release to be TOS 8 compliant! Cheers, David. P.S. and so it starts... QUOTE linuxglobe on 27th Sep 12: “I just want to own Sgt. Pepper and Abbey Road on audiophile 180 gram vinyl; I have a usb turntable, easily import into my iPhone! I *HEART* Los Beatles!!! Yeah, 'cause obviously...digital file > vinyl stamper > vinyl > USB turntable(!!!!) > iTunes > iPhone will sound better than digital file > CD > iTunes > iPhone! This post has been edited by 2Bdecided: Sep 28 2012, 11:35 |
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Sep 30 2012, 04:28
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QUOTE Having made initial test cuts, Magee pinpointed any sound problems that can occur during playback of vinyl records. To rectify them, changes were made to the remasters with a Digital Audio Workstation. For example, each vinyl album was listened to for any ‘sibilant episodes’ – vocal distortion that can occur on consonant sounds such as S and T. These were corrected by reducing the level in the very small portion of sound causing the undesired effect. Similarly, any likelihood of ‘inner-groove distortion’ was addressed. As the stylus approaches the centre of the record, it is liable to track the groove less accurately. This can affect the high-middle frequencies, producing a ‘mushy’ sound particularly noticeable on vocals. Using what Magee has described as ‘surgical EQ,’ problem frequencies were identified and reduced in level to compensate for this. This is nice and all and it's too bad it couldn't have been done as the norm back when vinyl was the best sounding format available, but man, this sure makes a good case for how much better digital is. I wonder if they'll ever release the non-limited masters digitally. Paul McCartney has been very kind in making them available for his remastered albums, but the company seems either to have a plan for making as much money out of these Beatles albums as possible by spacing out releases on different formats, or they don't want people to have a perfect version so they don't take away all reasons to buy the albums again later. Really, I doubt the compression and limiting made much of an audible difference if you were to match levels since it wasn't done to an extreme, there's just a wave of anti-compression sentiment amongst audiophiles due to the loudness wars. What I'd ideally like to see is remixes, whether stereo or surround, from the multi-tracks like they did with the Yellow Submarine Songtrack, which would remove a tape generation and (hopefully) be mixed better than they were in the '60s. That would be a legitimate reason to shell out for them again after the remasters. Of course, there's also a purist, "original is best! All changes are bad!" mentality to be overcome there too, unfortunately. |
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2Bdecided Beatles remasters soon available on vinyl Sep 28 2012, 11:35
hlloyge Aren't the original masters bad sounding, full... Sep 28 2012, 12:22
markanini QUOTE (hlloyge @ Sep 28 2012, 13:22) Aren... Sep 28 2012, 15:44
shakey_snake QUOTE (hlloyge @ Sep 28 2012, 07:22) Aren... Sep 29 2012, 03:57
hlloyge QUOTE (shakey_snake @ Sep 29 2012, 04:57)... Sep 29 2012, 16:38
LordWarlock Hiss and noise? That's still better than compr... Sep 28 2012, 12:30
derty2 Official technical info on this release...
QUOTE M... Sep 28 2012, 18:35
Blueshirt QUOTE (derty2 @ Sep 28 2012, 18:35) Offic... Sep 28 2012, 23:57
mzil Notice the goal was not a nearly indistinguishable... Sep 29 2012, 04:08
punkrockdude I would like to hear the inner groove distortion t... Sep 29 2012, 10:34
derty2 Recent excerpts from Steve Hoffman forums
--... Sep 29 2012, 15:22
derty2 The original tapes were 'raw' copied to di... Sep 29 2012, 17:44
lvqcl QUOTE I do not understand why the engineers didn... Sep 29 2012, 18:10
hlloyge I am not into that. Sell these files, rather than ... Sep 29 2012, 19:24
derty2 Your 'comment' was addressed in 2009, the ... Sep 29 2012, 19:45
Batman321 QUOTE (_if @ Sep 29 2012, 22:28) QUOTE Ha... Sep 30 2012, 09:25
LithosZA Arghh, just release an un-limited/uncompressed ver... Sep 30 2012, 10:26
2Bdecided It's nice they aren't including the peak l... Oct 1 2012, 10:46
cliveb QUOTE (2Bdecided @ Oct 1 2012, 10:46) Oth... Oct 2 2012, 13:54
2Bdecided QUOTE (cliveb @ Oct 2 2012, 13:54) QUOTE ... Oct 2 2012, 16:37
cliveb QUOTE (2Bdecided @ Oct 2 2012, 16:37) But... Oct 3 2012, 09:20
derty2 To remix or not to remix classic albums - An inter... Oct 1 2012, 20:01
RonaldDumsfeld Looking forward to hearing the mono versions when ... Oct 1 2012, 23:13
_if QUOTE (RonaldDumsfeld @ Oct 1 2012, 18:13... Oct 2 2012, 06:37
greynol Are you suggesting that MSFL doesn't apply EQ ... Oct 2 2012, 07:13
_if I trust the new remasters weren't batch-proces... Oct 2 2012, 08:27
2Bdecided I'm only judging from the Beetledrops website ... Oct 2 2012, 09:27
mzil Regarding EQ, since none of us have heard the mast... Oct 2 2012, 14:54
2Bdecided QUOTE (mzil @ Oct 2 2012, 14:54) Regardin... Oct 2 2012, 16:41
krabapple QUOTE (2Bdecided @ Oct 2 2012, 11:41) QUO... Oct 3 2012, 02:42
2Bdecided QUOTE (krabapple @ Oct 3 2012, 02:42) QUO... Oct 5 2012, 10:00
greynol The point that seems to be overlooked about MFSL i... Oct 2 2012, 15:13
mzil QUOTE (greynol @ Oct 2 2012, 10:13) The p... Oct 2 2012, 22:48
krabapple QUOTE (greynol @ Oct 2 2012, 10:13) The p... Oct 3 2012, 02:35

mzil QUOTE (krabapple @ Oct 2 2012, 21:35) I d... Oct 3 2012, 18:52
mzil QUOTE (greynol @ Oct 2 2012, 10:13) The p... Oct 3 2012, 18:32
greynol ABX?!?
Are we now claiming that different mas... Oct 2 2012, 22:54
mzil QUOTE (greynol @ Oct 2 2012, 17:54) ABX?... Oct 2 2012, 23:59
Porcus Are you saying that you were not trolling when you... Oct 3 2012, 00:12
mzil QUOTE (Porcus @ Oct 2 2012, 19:12) Are yo... Oct 3 2012, 01:07
Porcus QUOTE (mzil @ Oct 3 2012, 02:07) QUOTE (P... Oct 3 2012, 10:18
krabapple QUOTE (Porcus @ Oct 3 2012, 05:18) Actual... Oct 3 2012, 19:35
greynol QUOTE (krabapple @ Oct 3 2012, 11:35) One... Oct 3 2012, 20:56
mzil QUOTE (greynol @ Oct 3 2012, 15:56) QUOTE... Oct 3 2012, 21:42
greynol mzil,
I'll gladly show you logs demonstrating... Oct 3 2012, 00:20
mzil QUOTE (greynol @ Oct 2 2012, 19:20) mzil,... Oct 3 2012, 04:54
greynol Here you go:
CODEfoo_abx 1.3.1 report
foobar2000 v... Oct 3 2012, 05:29
mzil There's a huge difference in the audio level, ... Oct 3 2012, 07:13
Porcus QUOTE (mzil @ Oct 3 2012, 08:13) There... Oct 3 2012, 08:19
greynol QUOTE (Porcus @ Oct 3 2012, 00:19) Replay... Oct 3 2012, 10:42
Porcus QUOTE (greynol @ Oct 3 2012, 11:42) QUOTE... Oct 3 2012, 19:55
RonaldDumsfeld QUOTE Looking forward to hearing the mono versions... Oct 3 2012, 17:00
greynol If you boost the bass and treble, or cut the mids,... Oct 3 2012, 18:49
Ed Seedhouse QUOTE (greynol @ Oct 3 2012, 10:49) Wheth... Oct 4 2012, 16:32
Ed Seedhouse QUOTE (greynol @ Oct 3 2012, 10:49) Wheth... Oct 4 2012, 18:39
greynol QUOTE (Ed Seedhouse @ Oct 4 2012, 10:39) ... Oct 4 2012, 23:20
mzil ^Exactly. Oct 3 2012, 19:42
greynol Now you're being pedantic and of course there... Oct 3 2012, 21:47
mzil QUOTE (greynol @ Oct 3 2012, 16:47) Were ... Oct 3 2012, 22:17

greynol QUOTE (mzil @ Oct 3 2012, 14:17) [*Not su... Oct 3 2012, 22:19
mzil QUOTE (greynol @ Oct 3 2012, 16:47) If MF... Oct 3 2012, 23:11
Porcus For further confusion, throw in the reported DSOTM... Oct 3 2012, 21:52
godrick QUOTE (Porcus @ Oct 3 2012, 21:52) For fu... Oct 4 2012, 00:28
greynol If you apply de-emphasis to the Capitol sample, re... Oct 3 2012, 22:12
greynol 1) Aside attempting to address your comment about ... Oct 3 2012, 23:15
greynol If there is no topic to bump, feel free to start a... Oct 4 2012, 00:33
krabapple Do we know that MFSL's versions are typically ... Oct 4 2012, 05:48
eahm QUOTE (krabapple @ Oct 3 2012, 21:48) Do ... Oct 4 2012, 07:24
Batman321 QUOTE (eahm @ Oct 4 2012, 01:24) QUOTE (k... Oct 4 2012, 08:35

2Bdecided QUOTE (Batman321 @ Oct 4 2012, 08:35) Wha... Oct 5 2012, 10:08
krabapple QUOTE (eahm @ Oct 4 2012, 02:24) QUOTE (k... Oct 4 2012, 20:41
Batman321 Please go back to the topic. Oct 4 2012, 19:18
krabapple It occurs to me that I own a number of MFSL CDs...... Oct 4 2012, 20:49
2Bdecided I just want to tell you, absolutely definitively, ... Oct 5 2012, 10:16
_if QUOTE (2Bdecided @ Oct 5 2012, 05:16) You... Oct 5 2012, 19:47
derty2 Sean Magee has confirmed today that the vinyl is c... Nov 12 2012, 20:19
Batman321 QUOTE (derty2 @ Nov 12 2012, 14:19) Sean ... Nov 12 2012, 21:12
2Bdecided QUOTE (Batman321 @ Nov 12 2012, 20:12) I... Nov 14 2012, 14:26
greynol It could have been cut from 16/44.1 and no one wou... Nov 12 2012, 22:15
2Bdecided QUOTE (derty2 @ Nov 12 2012, 20:19) Sean ... Nov 13 2012, 12:56
2Bdecided It seems many of the copies sold in the US have pr... Nov 16 2012, 18:15
Batman321 Looks like the quality control guys at Rainbo Reco... Nov 16 2012, 21:03
Batman321 warped vinyl
lots of clicks and pops
scratches
wei... Nov 16 2012, 23:18
Ed Seedhouse QUOTE (Batman321 @ Nov 16 2012, 14:18) wa... Nov 17 2012, 00:00
2Bdecided QUOTE (Batman321 @ Nov 16 2012, 22:18) no... Nov 19 2012, 12:51
2Bdecided The guy who remastered the Beatles vinyl quotes th... Nov 20 2012, 18:59
Batman321 QUOTE (2Bdecided @ Nov 20 2012, 12:59) Th... Nov 20 2012, 20:42

Porcus QUOTE (Batman321 @ Nov 20 2012, 20:42) So... Nov 20 2012, 22:26
krabapple QUOTE (2Bdecided @ Nov 20 2012, 13:59) Th... Nov 21 2012, 15:09
2Bdecided QUOTE (krabapple @ Nov 21 2012, 14:09) is... Nov 22 2012, 12:52
krabapple QUOTE (2Bdecided @ Nov 22 2012, 07:52) I ... Nov 23 2012, 10:51
Batman321 QUOTE (krabapple @ Nov 23 2012, 04:51) QU... Nov 23 2012, 20:06
greynol Just an FYI:
That some guy is a disgruntled HA mem... Nov 20 2012, 22:21
greynol There's a reason I don't read too many dis... Nov 21 2012, 15:33![]() ![]() |
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