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How can I tell if my version of DSOTM was mastered with pre-emphasis?
godrick
post Oct 4 2012, 02:01
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Per http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index....st&p=810470, I looked at my CD of Dark Side of the Moon, and looked at the tedious but uninsightful discussion at http://www.stevehoffman.tv/forums/showthread.php?t=264920 , and still can't definitively determine if my CD has pre-emphasis or not. Any advice appreciated!

My CD is labelled on the top as:
Stereo
CDP 7 46001 2
DIDX 226
Made in the U.S.A.
Manufactured for Capital Records, Inc.
1973 The Gramaphone Company Limited
1973 Capital Records, Inc.

Around the inner ring on the top:
DIDX 226 111A6

Around the innermost ring on the top:
Made in USA - Digital Audio Disc Corp.

On the back of the CD case, upper right:
CDP
7 46001 2
DIDX 226
Barcode 0 777-46001-2

Cover of the booklet has the pyramid and prism spectrum graphic, and in the upper right a circle around "Pink Floyd the Dark Side of the Moon"

On the back of the booklet, upper right:
CDP
7 46001 2
DIDX 226

I bought it new in the 1980's for what it's worth. I used dBpoweramp to rip it and it did not detect pre-emphasis. The images shown on the first link above on discogs are exactly as on my CD, with two exceptions:

- my CD has DIDX 226 on the inner ring of the disc itself which discogs specifically precludes from the version it is defining.
- the outlined section on the left of the top of the CD image on discogs shows a second row of just "Made in the U.S.A.", while my version has "DIDX 226 | Made in U.S.A."

moderator: please add "version" after "my" in the thread title - thanks!

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post Oct 15 2012, 03:07
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How did you test it?


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post Oct 15 2012, 12:53
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QUOTE (greynol @ Oct 14 2012, 20:07) *
How did you test it?

I inserted my DSOTM CD and observed that EAC 1.0b3 reported 'No' in the Pre-Emphasis column.
I then initiated a Create CUE Sheet (single WAV file) action.
I looked at the cue sheet and noted it didn't put in FLAGS PRE on any of the tracks:

CODE
REM DISCID 680A1009
REM COMMENT "ExactAudioCopy v1.0b3"
PERFORMER "Unknown Artist"
TITLE "Unknown Title"
FILE "Range.wav" WAVE
TRACK 01 AUDIO
TITLE "Track01"
PERFORMER "Unknown Artist"
INDEX 01 00:00:00
TRACK 02 AUDIO
TITLE "Track02"
PERFORMER "Unknown Artist"
INDEX 01 03:57:35
TRACK 03 AUDIO
TITLE "Track03"
PERFORMER "Unknown Artist"
INDEX 01 07:29:32
TRACK 04 AUDIO
TITLE "Track04"
PERFORMER "Unknown Artist"
INDEX 01 14:34:42
TRACK 05 AUDIO
TITLE "Track05"
PERFORMER "Unknown Artist"
INDEX 01 19:21:47
TRACK 06 AUDIO
TITLE "Track06"
PERFORMER "Unknown Artist"
INDEX 01 25:45:12
TRACK 07 AUDIO
TITLE "Track07"
PERFORMER "Unknown Artist"
INDEX 01 33:34:02
TRACK 08 AUDIO
TITLE "Track08"
PERFORMER "Unknown Artist"
INDEX 01 36:59:47
TRACK 09 AUDIO
TITLE "Track09"
PERFORMER "Unknown Artist"
INDEX 01 40:50:05


For reference, here's the output of cdda2wav -J for the same disc:
CODE
No target specified, trying to find one...
Using dev=0,1,0.
Type: ROM, Vendor 'PLDS ' Model 'DVD-RW DH16ABSH ' Revision 'YL32' MMC+CDDA
983040 bytes buffer memory requested, transfer size 64512 bytes, 4 buffers, 27 sectors
cdda2wav: Read TOC CD Text failed (probably not supported).
#Cdda2wav version 3.00_cygwin32_nt_1.7.5(0.225-5-3)_i686_i686, real time sched., soundcard, libparanoia support
AUDIOtrack pre-emphasis copy-permitted tracktype channels
1- 9 no no audio 2
Table of Contents: total tracks:9, (total time 42:56.55)
1.( 3:57.35), 2.( 3:31.72), 3.( 7:05.10), 4.( 4:47.05), 5.( 6:23.40),
6.( 7:48.65), 7.( 3:25.45), 8.( 3:50.33), 9.( 2:06.50)

Table of Contents: starting sectors
1.( 0), 2.( 17810), 3.( 33707), 4.( 65592), 5.( 87122),
6.( 115887), 7.( 151052), 8.( 166472), 9.( 183755), lead-out( 193255)
CDINDEX discid: rKs_PWM2y.8B7uVgxqJqzTDz7vs-
CDDB discid: 0x680a1009
CD-Text: not detected
CD-Extra: not detected
No media catalog number present.
scanning for ISRCs: 9 ...
index scan: 1...difference: TOC:without, subchannel:with preemphasis
correcting TOC...
index scan: 2...difference: TOC:without, subchannel:with preemphasis
correcting TOC...
index scan: 3...difference: TOC:without, subchannel:with preemphasis
correcting TOC...
index scan: 4...difference: TOC:without, subchannel:with preemphasis
correcting TOC...
index scan: 5...difference: TOC:without, subchannel:with preemphasis
correcting TOC...
index scan: 6...difference: TOC:without, subchannel:with preemphasis
correcting TOC...
index scan: 7...difference: TOC:without, subchannel:with preemphasis
correcting TOC...
index scan: 8...difference: TOC:without, subchannel:with preemphasis
correcting TOC...
index scan: 9...difference: TOC:without, subchannel:with preemphasis
correcting TOC...
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Posts in this topic
- godrick   How can I tell if my version of DSOTM was mastered with pre-emphasis?   Oct 4 2012, 02:01
- - slks   Even most of the 80s CDs didn't have pre-empha...   Oct 4 2012, 07:30
|- - mjb2006   QUOTE (godrick @ Oct 3 2012, 19:01) Aroun...   Oct 5 2012, 04:49
- - godrick   ...which works great for pre-emphasized discs that...   Oct 4 2012, 14:34
- - DVDdoug   How does it sound to you? As far as I know, I...   Oct 4 2012, 17:58
|- - Glenn Gundlach   QUOTE (DVDdoug @ Oct 4 2012, 08:58) How d...   Oct 14 2012, 17:39
- - Porcus   Two samples from Money uploaded. One from the 20th...   Oct 4 2012, 18:43
|- - Arnold B. Krueger   QUOTE (Porcus @ Oct 4 2012, 13:43) Two sa...   Oct 14 2012, 15:03
|- - Porcus   QUOTE (Arnold B. Krueger @ Oct 14 2012, 16...   Oct 14 2012, 23:35
- - Canar   QUOTE (godrick @ Oct 3 2012, 18:01) moder...   Oct 5 2012, 04:58
- - godrick   mjb2006: thank you very much - it appears my versi...   Oct 5 2012, 09:21
- - greynol   I just verified that my copy of DTSOM is the same ...   Oct 14 2012, 01:49
|- - mjb2006   QUOTE (greynol @ Oct 13 2012, 17:49) I ju...   Nov 30 2012, 19:20
- - greynol   Allow me to give a little background on the issue ...   Oct 14 2012, 17:46
|- - mjb2006   For some reason I thought EAC did put FLAGS PRE in...   Oct 15 2012, 01:18
- - edwardar   I have the 'blackface' version with the sa...   Oct 14 2012, 19:51
- - greynol   How did you test it?   Oct 15 2012, 03:07
|- - mjb2006   QUOTE (greynol @ Oct 14 2012, 20:07) How ...   Oct 15 2012, 12:53
- - Porcus   I uploaded a third one. Anyone who feels like ju...   Nov 22 2012, 00:20


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