What's the meaning of "sample rate" in MP3/Vorbis/AAC?, Considering the audio was transformed |
What's the meaning of "sample rate" in MP3/Vorbis/AAC?, Considering the audio was transformed |
Oct 7 2012, 03:44
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What's the meaning of "sample rate" in MP3/Vorbis/AAC? Wouldn't it be meaningless after transform, same as bit depth?
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Oct 8 2012, 23:04
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I think one problem is that we're never doing a Fourier Transform of the entire file.
Instead we do overlapping windowed transforms, which don't preserve all the frequency content of the original file accurately (and spread the single frequencies across multiple bins. Given that there must be frequency spreading, there will at least be some difficulty in anti-aliasing, and there will also be elements of temporal spreading too. I admit that I haven't got my head around the whole concept, though it has occurred to me in thinking about things like pitch-shifting or tempo-shifting but I still haven't worked out all the pitfalls. I know that algorithms like Soundtouch have audible problems especially on multi-instrument/vocalist samples. This post has been edited by Dynamic: Oct 8 2012, 23:07 |
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sheh What's the meaning of "sample rate" in MP3/Vorbis/AAC? Oct 7 2012, 03:44
saratoga No, the transform occurs on sampled data and so th... Oct 7 2012, 05:05
sheh I guess the way I put it does seem like a retread.... Oct 9 2012, 05:21
saratoga QUOTE (sheh @ Oct 9 2012, 00:21) Benski s... Oct 9 2012, 19:03
pdq Still. since the data are stored as frequencies an... Oct 7 2012, 14:23
[JAZ] When we say that lossy streams don't have a st... Oct 7 2012, 14:44
jensend I'm not intimately acquainted with the details... Oct 7 2012, 16:46
benski fs is part of the MDCT equation. If you didn... Oct 7 2012, 18:32
sheh Okay, so the original fs needs to be plugged in so... Oct 8 2012, 18:33
lvqcl Winamp MP3 decoder still have Full/Half/Quarter qu... Oct 7 2012, 18:56
benski QUOTE (lvqcl @ Oct 7 2012, 13:56) Winamp ... Oct 10 2012, 16:16
saratoga Using a dct means you could easily drop the sample... Oct 7 2012, 19:00
saratoga QUOTE (sheh @ Oct 8 2012, 13:33) Okay, so... Oct 8 2012, 23:41
jensend I still think you're wrong here. Once you... Oct 7 2012, 19:57
saratoga QUOTE (jensend @ Oct 7 2012, 14:57) I sti... Oct 7 2012, 20:16
[JAZ] Mmm.. the tranformation that (most) lossy codecs d... Oct 9 2012, 19:03
Dynamic QUOTE ([JAZ] @ Oct 9 2012, 19:03)... Oct 9 2012, 22:22
pdq So am I understanding correctly that 99.9% of deco... Oct 10 2012, 17:12
saratoga QUOTE (benski @ Oct 10 2012, 11:16) QUOTE... Oct 10 2012, 17:30
[JAZ] QUOTE (Dynamic @ Oct 9 2012, 23:22) As [J... Oct 10 2012, 17:52
saratoga QUOTE ([JAZ] @ Oct 10 2012, 12:52... Oct 10 2012, 18:20
[JAZ] Winamp with the in-house decoder (i.e. not the fra... Oct 10 2012, 18:41
saratoga QUOTE ([JAZ] @ Oct 10 2012, 13:41... Oct 10 2012, 18:55
Dynamic My recollection is that Winamp 1.7 running under W... Oct 11 2012, 16:14
sheh So sample rate matters. I suppose without being fa... Oct 11 2012, 23:20![]() ![]() |
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