LAME 3.100 alpha testing |
LAME 3.100 alpha testing |
Nov 8 2012, 03:29
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Nov 9 2012, 02:37
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As long as problematic samples benefit then slight overall bitrate increase is justified IMO. If the psymodel is more robust that should not turn people off that there is 6% increase. So far its clear that from v3.98 is more defensive and 3.99 / 3.100 even more so . V1 / V0 produce higher bitrate and i have tested the other day some problem samples of the past and the quality is near transparent and thats what matters to me . In the past there was little to zero tunings on anything other than V2 or --preset standard. Going to --preset extreme often did nothing. Now there is a proper VBR scale that works.
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Nov 9 2012, 03:09
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As long as problematic samples benefit then slight overall bitrate increase is justified IMO. If the psymodel is more robust that should not turn people off that there is 6% increase. Most of people will agree with this wiki info. It's the idea of VBR. But that should not turn off people to try two versions of encoder with different vbr settings simply because it doesn't end up with the same bitrate anymore as previously. It creates an illusion of endless improvement untill you get 300 kbps for v2 (?) Shortly it's not a problem if an encoder increase bitrate on its hard samples, the problem is when encoder just use more bitrate for any kind of samples and people confuse this situation with the first scenario, buying it as improvement. This post has been edited by IgorC: Nov 9 2012, 03:17 |
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IgorC LAME 3.100 alpha testing Nov 8 2012, 03:29
IgorC As of bitrate for current alpha 2 it's (3.99.... Nov 8 2012, 03:59
Dynamic QUOTE (IgorC @ Nov 8 2012, 02:59) So I tr... Nov 8 2012, 16:09
halb27 I tested 3.100a2 at the -V2 quality level for lead... Nov 8 2012, 11:40
lameboy How is the LAME header written in 3.100? (I'm ... Nov 8 2012, 15:36
IgorC halb27,
Before anything. Does 3.100 -V2 comparabl... Nov 8 2012, 15:33
halb27 QUOTE (IgorC @ Nov 8 2012, 16:33) ... Doe... Nov 8 2012, 16:07
IgorC QUOTE (halb27 @ Nov 8 2012, 12:07) Averag... Nov 8 2012, 17:11
halb27 For a fair comparison (in terms of average bitrate... Nov 8 2012, 16:29
Dynamic Yes, I should have made it clear that I was really... Nov 8 2012, 17:17
Porcus IgorC: 190 vs 195 is oranges vs elephants ... seri... Nov 8 2012, 17:23
IgorC QUOTE (Porcus @ Nov 8 2012, 13:23) IgorC:... Nov 8 2012, 18:07
halb27 QUOTE (IgorC @ Nov 8 2012, 18:07) Who gua... Nov 8 2012, 18:20
IgorC QUOTE (halb27 @ Nov 8 2012, 14:20) A 5 kb... Nov 8 2012, 18:50
halb27 Average bitrate for my test set using -V5:
3.98.4:... Nov 8 2012, 17:27
halb27 I finished my -V2 listening test with herding_call... Nov 8 2012, 17:56
IgorC QUOTE (halb27 @ Nov 8 2012, 13:27) Averag... Nov 8 2012, 17:59
halb27 I tested 3.100a2 -V0 for the samples that were not... Nov 8 2012, 18:40
halb27 OK, so the -V5 quality improvement of this sample ... Nov 8 2012, 19:32
IgorC if 5 kbps doesn't matter then try 3.99.5 V1.9 ... Nov 8 2012, 20:52
halb27 3.99.5 -V1.85 yields an average bitrate of 195 kbp... Nov 8 2012, 21:16
IgorC Thank You for understanding, halb27.
MPEG tests ... Nov 8 2012, 22:07
shadowking As i can tell the recent encoders are using mega-b... Nov 9 2012, 04:13
BFG Personally, I'm less concerned about bitrate a... Nov 9 2012, 07:05
halb27 So what we've learnt is:
- For an exact compa... Nov 9 2012, 07:49
saratoga QUOTE (halb27 @ Nov 9 2012, 02:49) - Espe... Nov 9 2012, 22:58
BFG QUOTE (saratoga @ Nov 9 2012, 15:58) I wo... Nov 9 2012, 23:32
Gainless Another sample, pre-echos on the kicks with -V 2 (... Nov 9 2012, 20:49
halb27 ???
IMO a selection of tracks should be used which... Nov 10 2012, 11:16
Kamedo2 I'm considering a listening test of this new L... Dec 2 2012, 07:50
Gainless QUOTE (Kamedo2 @ Dec 2 2012, 07:50) I... Dec 2 2012, 12:05
IgorC Kamedo2,
Performing a full test with an early al... Dec 2 2012, 13:53
Kamedo2 QUOTE (IgorC @ Dec 2 2012, 21:53) Perform... Dec 2 2012, 15:40
Kamedo2 A small a priori test of LAME 3.100a2.
3.100VBR V3... Dec 8 2012, 19:02
IgorC QUOTE (Kamedo2 @ Dec 8 2012, 15:02) Maybe... Dec 9 2012, 17:41
Kamedo2 QUOTE (IgorC @ Dec 10 2012, 01:41) Can I ... Dec 9 2012, 18:43
halb27 Wow! This looks great!
So despite its alph... Dec 8 2012, 22:03
IgorC Welcome to our world.
Today You clearly hear t... Dec 9 2012, 19:09
Kamedo2 QUOTE (IgorC @ Dec 10 2012, 03:09) Today ... Dec 9 2012, 20:17
Kamedo2 QUOTE (Kamedo2 @ Dec 10 2012, 04:17) Yes,... Dec 11 2012, 15:43![]() ![]() |
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