LAME 3.100 alpha testing |
LAME 3.100 alpha testing |
Nov 8 2012, 03:29
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Group: Members Posts: 1315 Joined: 3-January 05 From: Argentina, Bs As Member No.: 18803 |
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Dec 8 2012, 19:02
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Group: Members Posts: 60 Joined: 16-November 12 From: Kyoto, Japan Member No.: 104567 |
A small a priori test of LAME 3.100a2.
3.100VBR V3.6, 3.100CBR q0 160kbps, 3.99.5 V3.4 ![]() ![]() CODE % This format is compatible with my graphmaker, as well as ff123's FRIEDMAN. 3.100VBR 3.100CBR 3.99VBR 4.700 4.100 4.500 4.500 4.300 4.100 4.200 3.900 4.400 5.000 4.200 4.500 5.000 4.200 4.400 %samples Reunion Blues Jazz %samples French Speech %samples undelete Pops %samples Dimmu Borgir Metal %samples Run up Pops CODE 3.100VBR 3.100CBR 3.99VBR 176388 160357 177434 171927 160292 178264 181507 160327 180015 164784 160569 165735 161089 160553 159509 Average bitrate: 171139 160420 172191 Calibrated bitrate: 160742 160044 159764 Samples used:last five samples of http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index....showtopic=98003 The number of sample is only 5, so it's not a very trustworthy data. Maybe it would be very nice if someone reproduce the results, especially the VBR vs VBR part. |
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Dec 9 2012, 17:41
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Group: Members Posts: 1315 Joined: 3-January 05 From: Argentina, Bs As Member No.: 18803 |
Maybe it would be very nice if someone reproduce the results, especially the VBR vs VBR part. Can I ask You what kind of artifacts do You hear on "Reunion Blues"? I got totally opposite results. Probably we're listening to different instruments there. While there are some misc. artifacts here and there, the main issue I hear is the distortion on hi-hat. Well, we are two different listeners with different hardware. Here's my result for this sample. http://www.mediafire.com/?cyjfaoam2b9kmhq CODE ABC/HR Version 1.1 beta 2, 18 June 2004 Testname: 1L = D:\Audio\3.100a2\01 Reunion Blues\01 reunion blues 3.100a2.wav 2L = D:\Audio\3.100a2\01 Reunion Blues\01 reunion blues 3.99.5.wav --------------------------------------- General Comments: --------------------------------------- 1L File: D:\Audio\3.100a2\01 Reunion Blues\01 reunion blues 3.100a2.wav 1L Rating: 4.4 1L Comment: The artifacts sound like flush water on hi-hat. --------------------------------------- 2L File: D:\Audio\3.100a2\01 Reunion Blues\01 reunion blues 3.99.5.wav 2L Rating: 4.7 2L Comment: --------------------------------------- ABX Results: D:\Audio\3.100a2\01 Reunion Blues\01 reunion blues 3.100a2.wav vs D:\Audio\3.100a2\01 Reunion Blues\01 reunion blues 3.99.5.wav 5 out of 5, pval = 0.031 I've performed this test twice and it's the same. This post has been edited by IgorC: Dec 9 2012, 17:43 |
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Dec 9 2012, 18:43
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Group: Members Posts: 60 Joined: 16-November 12 From: Kyoto, Japan Member No.: 104567 |
Can I ask You what kind of artifacts do You hear on "Reunion Blues"? I got totally opposite results. Probably we're listening to different instruments there. While there are some misc. artifacts here and there, the main issue I hear is the distortion on hi-hat. What I've noticed is a low frequency collapse in left channel, piano, which is sometimes found in libfaac. The artifact is very slight. I've performed this test twice and it's the same. I tried to reproduce the result, but failed to do so. This time, I used Pioneer SE-DHP800-2. CODE ABC/HR for Java, Version 0.53a, 10 12 2012
Testname: 25rbmp3160k Tester: 1R = C:\d\autoencode6\sound_out\25rb_.lame3099_v34.mp3 2R = C:\d\autoencode6\sound_out\25rb_.lame3100_v36.mp3 3R = C:\d\autoencode6\sound_out\25rb_.lame3100_160k.mp3 Ratings on a scale from 1.0 to 5.0 --------------------------------------- General Comments: I've noticed a low frequency distortion in piano. --------------------------------------- 3R File: C:\d\autoencode6\sound_out\25rb_.lame3100_160k.mp3 3R Rating: 4.2 3R Comment: Hi-hat distortions and less clear piano and other low freq sound. --------------------------------------- ABX Results: Original vs C:\d\autoencode6\sound_out\25rb_.lame3100_160k.mp3 12 out of 15, pval = 0.017 Original vs C:\d\autoencode6\sound_out\25rb_.lame3100_v36.mp3 9 out of 15, pval = 0.303 Original vs C:\d\autoencode6\sound_out\25rb_.lame3099_v34.mp3 10 out of 15, pval = 0.15 ---- Detailed ABX results ---- Original vs C:\d\autoencode6\sound_out\25rb_.lame3100_160k.mp3 Playback Range: 00.000 to 30.000 2:01:03 AM p 1/1 pval = 0.5 2:02:29 AM p 2/2 pval = 0.25 2:03:22 AM f 2/3 pval = 0.5 2:03:46 AM p 3/4 pval = 0.312 2:03:58 AM p 4/5 pval = 0.187 2:04:21 AM p 5/6 pval = 0.109 2:04:32 AM p 6/7 pval = 0.062 2:04:43 AM p 7/8 pval = 0.035 2:04:57 AM f 7/9 pval = 0.089 2:05:07 AM p 8/10 pval = 0.054 2:05:39 AM p 9/11 pval = 0.032 2:05:49 AM p 10/12 pval = 0.019 2:06:01 AM p 11/13 pval = 0.011 2:06:24 AM p 12/14 pval = 0.0060 2:06:51 AM f 12/15 pval = 0.017 Original vs C:\d\autoencode6\sound_out\25rb_.lame3100_v36.mp3 Playback Range: 00.000 to 30.000 2:20:51 AM f 0/1 pval = 1.0 2:21:03 AM f 0/2 pval = 1.0 2:21:50 AM p 1/3 pval = 0.875 2:22:21 AM p 2/4 pval = 0.687 2:22:53 AM p 3/5 pval = 0.5 2:23:21 AM p 4/6 pval = 0.343 2:23:51 AM f 4/7 pval = 0.5 2:24:16 AM p 5/8 pval = 0.363 2:24:36 AM f 5/9 pval = 0.5 2:25:14 AM p 6/10 pval = 0.376 2:25:25 AM p 7/11 pval = 0.274 2:25:39 AM f 7/12 pval = 0.387 2:26:04 AM p 8/13 pval = 0.29 2:26:22 AM f 8/14 pval = 0.395 2:27:01 AM p 9/15 pval = 0.303 Original vs C:\d\autoencode6\sound_out\25rb_.lame3099_v34.mp3 Playback Range: 00.000 to 30.000 2:12:19 AM f 0/1 pval = 1.0 2:13:18 AM p 1/2 pval = 0.75 2:13:46 AM p 2/3 pval = 0.5 2:15:01 AM p 3/4 pval = 0.312 2:15:31 AM f 3/5 pval = 0.5 2:15:47 AM p 4/6 pval = 0.343 2:16:03 AM f 4/7 pval = 0.5 2:16:24 AM p 5/8 pval = 0.363 2:16:41 AM p 6/9 pval = 0.253 2:16:54 AM f 6/10 pval = 0.376 2:17:07 AM p 7/11 pval = 0.274 2:17:40 AM f 7/12 pval = 0.387 2:18:06 AM p 8/13 pval = 0.29 2:18:20 AM p 9/14 pval = 0.211 2:18:59 AM p 10/15 pval = 0.15 |
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IgorC LAME 3.100 alpha testing Nov 8 2012, 03:29
IgorC As of bitrate for current alpha 2 it's (3.99.... Nov 8 2012, 03:59
Dynamic QUOTE (IgorC @ Nov 8 2012, 02:59) So I tr... Nov 8 2012, 16:09
halb27 I tested 3.100a2 at the -V2 quality level for lead... Nov 8 2012, 11:40
lameboy How is the LAME header written in 3.100? (I'm ... Nov 8 2012, 15:36
IgorC halb27,
Before anything. Does 3.100 -V2 comparabl... Nov 8 2012, 15:33
halb27 QUOTE (IgorC @ Nov 8 2012, 16:33) ... Doe... Nov 8 2012, 16:07
IgorC QUOTE (halb27 @ Nov 8 2012, 12:07) Averag... Nov 8 2012, 17:11
halb27 For a fair comparison (in terms of average bitrate... Nov 8 2012, 16:29
Dynamic Yes, I should have made it clear that I was really... Nov 8 2012, 17:17
Porcus IgorC: 190 vs 195 is oranges vs elephants ... seri... Nov 8 2012, 17:23
IgorC QUOTE (Porcus @ Nov 8 2012, 13:23) IgorC:... Nov 8 2012, 18:07
halb27 QUOTE (IgorC @ Nov 8 2012, 18:07) Who gua... Nov 8 2012, 18:20
IgorC QUOTE (halb27 @ Nov 8 2012, 14:20) A 5 kb... Nov 8 2012, 18:50
halb27 Average bitrate for my test set using -V5:
3.98.4:... Nov 8 2012, 17:27
halb27 I finished my -V2 listening test with herding_call... Nov 8 2012, 17:56
IgorC QUOTE (halb27 @ Nov 8 2012, 13:27) Averag... Nov 8 2012, 17:59
halb27 I tested 3.100a2 -V0 for the samples that were not... Nov 8 2012, 18:40
halb27 OK, so the -V5 quality improvement of this sample ... Nov 8 2012, 19:32
IgorC if 5 kbps doesn't matter then try 3.99.5 V1.9 ... Nov 8 2012, 20:52
halb27 3.99.5 -V1.85 yields an average bitrate of 195 kbp... Nov 8 2012, 21:16
IgorC Thank You for understanding, halb27.
MPEG tests ... Nov 8 2012, 22:07
shadowking As long as problematic samples benefit then slight... Nov 9 2012, 02:37
IgorC QUOTE (shadowking @ Nov 8 2012, 22:37) As... Nov 9 2012, 03:09
shadowking As i can tell the recent encoders are using mega-b... Nov 9 2012, 04:13
BFG Personally, I'm less concerned about bitrate a... Nov 9 2012, 07:05
halb27 So what we've learnt is:
- For an exact compa... Nov 9 2012, 07:49
saratoga QUOTE (halb27 @ Nov 9 2012, 02:49) - Espe... Nov 9 2012, 22:58
BFG QUOTE (saratoga @ Nov 9 2012, 15:58) I wo... Nov 9 2012, 23:32
Gainless Another sample, pre-echos on the kicks with -V 2 (... Nov 9 2012, 20:49
halb27 ???
IMO a selection of tracks should be used which... Nov 10 2012, 11:16
Kamedo2 I'm considering a listening test of this new L... Dec 2 2012, 07:50
Gainless QUOTE (Kamedo2 @ Dec 2 2012, 07:50) I... Dec 2 2012, 12:05
IgorC Kamedo2,
Performing a full test with an early al... Dec 2 2012, 13:53
Kamedo2 QUOTE (IgorC @ Dec 2 2012, 21:53) Perform... Dec 2 2012, 15:40
halb27 Wow! This looks great!
So despite its alph... Dec 8 2012, 22:03
IgorC Welcome to our world.
Today You clearly hear t... Dec 9 2012, 19:09
Kamedo2 QUOTE (IgorC @ Dec 10 2012, 03:09) Today ... Dec 9 2012, 20:17
Kamedo2 QUOTE (Kamedo2 @ Dec 10 2012, 04:17) Yes,... Dec 11 2012, 15:43![]() ![]() |
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