Smallest File / Mostly Transparent Encoder?, Have not been keeping up.. |
Smallest File / Mostly Transparent Encoder?, Have not been keeping up.. |
Nov 13 2012, 03:34
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Group: Members Posts: 317 Joined: 28-November 01 From: South Australia Member No.: 555 |
Hello All
I have not been keeping with the latest goings on in the last few years. Is these a consensus on an audio format vs file size that is mostly transparent? I have always used V2 with LAME. (I still remember the --r3mix option!) Currently I encoded a bunch of stuff with -V4 for portable usage and it has been great. Is there any other file formats or options that give the smallest file size that is mostly transparent? I know mostly transparent is not a scientific analysis but I am unsure if there is a happy medium now? Thanks in advance. |
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Nov 13 2012, 16:13
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Group: Members Posts: 317 Joined: 28-November 01 From: South Australia Member No.: 555 |
So I have managed to get this to work:
qaac.exe in Foobar2000. -V45 -o %d - Average of 96kbits. Is that the highest quality option for that bitrate? If so I'll play around that bitrate area. Thanks everyone |
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Nov 13 2012, 16:48
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Group: Members Posts: 1315 Joined: 3-January 05 From: Argentina, Bs As Member No.: 18803 |
-V45 -o %d - Average of 96kbits. Is that the highest quality option for that bitrate? Yes, it's the highest quality setting for true VBR (-V, TVBR ). You can try a constrained VBR as well (-v, CVBR) -v 96 for comparable bitrate. CVBR has higher score than TVBR though without statistic difference. http://listening-tests.hydrogenaudio.org/i...-96-a/index.htm Is there a somewhat consensus that FhG is better than QAAC now? I note the listening tests are about a year old now. Thanks The situation hasn't changed since then. There were some small tunings but major releases remain the same. AAC encoders were tested since a long time ago http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Codec_listening_test And Apple encoder is/was always on top. It could be the case that Apple LC-AAC encoder has reached the best possible quality for the entire AAC format. Possibly there are some other LC-AAC encoders with same or near the same quality but never better than it. This post has been edited by IgorC: Nov 13 2012, 16:51 |
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funkyblue Smallest File / Mostly Transparent Encoder? Nov 13 2012, 03:34
saratoga For portable use, probably -V5 in lame would be fi... Nov 13 2012, 03:42
funkyblue QUOTE (saratoga @ Nov 13 2012, 11:42) For... Nov 13 2012, 04:20
saratoga QUOTE (funkyblue @ Nov 12 2012, 23:20) QU... Nov 13 2012, 06:39
IgorC There is a search function in the top-right corner... Nov 13 2012, 04:55
BFG For transparency and portability, it's still t... Nov 13 2012, 05:06
funkyblue QUOTE (IgorC @ Nov 13 2012, 12:55) There ... Nov 13 2012, 05:47
eahm I can even suggest you AAC True VBR q36 (~95kbps) ... Nov 13 2012, 06:38
Anakunda Check hardware specs of the target player and if i... Nov 13 2012, 08:06
Nessuno Why don't take a different approach to this ma... Nov 13 2012, 09:26
Porcus Is this for keeping your only copy, or is it for t... Nov 13 2012, 09:23
funkyblue QUOTE (Porcus @ Nov 13 2012, 17:23) Is th... Nov 13 2012, 10:09
shadowking IMO, MP3 takes the crown . Others may be better t... Nov 13 2012, 11:07
funkyblue QUOTE (shadowking @ Nov 13 2012, 19:07) I... Nov 13 2012, 12:18
skamp Opus at ~128 kbps is also pretty good (I couldn... Nov 13 2012, 11:20
punkrockdude I hope the developer on DeaDBeeF changes his mind ... Nov 13 2012, 12:16
Brand Based on my own limited testing, I'd say the l... Nov 13 2012, 12:57
yourlord Do some test encodes of OGG Vorbis or AAC targetin... Nov 13 2012, 14:21
IgorC A personal listening test of AAC and MP3. http://d... Nov 13 2012, 15:07
funkyblue OK Thanks IgorC I did take a look at the listenin... Nov 13 2012, 15:23
pdq Just a thought, for less than $40 you can get... Nov 13 2012, 15:44
funkyblue Yeah I could get another MP3 player, but I am only... Nov 13 2012, 15:57
eahm QUOTE (funkyblue @ Nov 13 2012, 08:13) So... Nov 13 2012, 19:02
funkyblue QUOTE (eahm @ Nov 14 2012, 04:02) QUOTE (... Nov 21 2012, 05:20
eahm QUOTE (funkyblue @ Nov 20 2012, 21:20) QU... Nov 21 2012, 06:18
Brand For the FhG AAC encoder see here. The encoder .exe... Nov 13 2012, 16:17
greensdrive check QAAC's wiki, https://github.com/nu774/qa... Nov 13 2012, 16:20
funkyblue QUOTE (greensdrive @ Nov 14 2012, 00:20) ... Nov 13 2012, 16:24
funkyblue Is there a somewhat consensus that FhG is better t... Nov 13 2012, 16:21
Brand QUOTE (funkyblue @ Nov 13 2012, 17:21) Is... Nov 13 2012, 16:51
eahm QUOTE (funkyblue @ Nov 13 2012, 08:21) Is... Nov 14 2012, 19:07
greensdrive my foobar2000 command line for approximately 128 k... Nov 13 2012, 16:44
funkyblue QUOTE (greensdrive @ Nov 14 2012, 00:44) ... Nov 13 2012, 16:53
funkyblue I am truly shocked at the quality of 96kbits!
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yourlord What kind of phone? All Android phones will play O... Nov 13 2012, 18:12
pdq QUOTE (funkyblue @ Nov 13 2012, 06:18) I ... Nov 13 2012, 18:33
funkyblue I could ABX 112kbits. Could not ABX files in Lame ... Nov 14 2012, 15:18
IgorC QUOTE (funkyblue @ Nov 14 2012, 11:18) I ... Nov 14 2012, 16:37
pdq It appears that funkyblue is only using ABX to dis... Nov 14 2012, 16:52
IgorC It's not that simple and linear.
The conditi... Nov 14 2012, 17:06
funkyblue QUOTE (IgorC @ Nov 15 2012, 01:06) It... Nov 15 2012, 01:49
Brand But wasn't the only AAC comparison done at ~96... Nov 14 2012, 19:32
eahm AAC achieve transparency at around 128kbps, obviou... Nov 14 2012, 20:54
IgorC I'm glad You are open mind.
Here is a guid... Nov 15 2012, 15:10![]() ![]() |
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