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Best Quality for Lossy Encoding of Audiobooks?
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post Nov 27 2012, 15:26
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Obviously if I don't want FLAC. But I also don't want it to be (much) distinguishable from the original. Storage space is not really an issue nowadays. What do you use? MP3 or OGG file format? Which settings? Which software? I have Fre:Ac. I would prefer an easy to use Windows solution, no command lines. What settings to use?

By the way what is the best audio grabber program nowadays? Is it still EAC? I'm really out of this game lately. smile.gif

Oh, and how to create separate audio tracks for gapless playback on any basic player? I just see your Wiki... There used to be a command line solution to cut the audio files at the block's ends so every simple player can play 'em back gaplessly. It worked for MP3. Does it work for OGG?

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post Nov 27 2012, 18:06
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QUOTE (encoder @ Nov 27 2012, 14:26) *
By the way what is the best audio grabber program nowadays? Is it still EAC? I'm really out of this game lately. :)

Oh, and how to create separate audio tracks for gapless playback on any basic player? I just see your Wiki... There used to be a command line solution to cut the audio files at the block's ends so every simple player can play 'em back gaplessly. It worked for MP3. Does it work for OGG?


If by 'grabber' you mean CD ripping, EAC is still great, CUETools' CUERipper is equally good and perhaps easier to set up (that's what I use mostly, usually in Burst mode when the disc is found in CTDB and modest ripping errors can be corrected without re-ripping). Also excellent is dBpowerAmp. Its PerfectMeta could be a great time saver on a large ripping process. Foobar2000's ripper is pretty good too though I'm not as familiar with the techniques used. I've used them all from time to time. (CUETools and dBpowerAmp Converter can also handle a lot of file format conversion tasks, as can foobar2000).

Ogg Vorbis is intrinsically gapless (as is its new successor, Opus). Only a few external players support gapless MP3 via Lame's Accurate Length tags. The old --nogap solution had its problems and is deprecated in favour of the Lame Accurate Length information.

Most of the very basic players close the stream and re-open thus failing to preserve gapless playback regardless of how you encode. However, some excellent low cost players (such as Sandisk Clip) support Rockbox, which offers gapless playback.
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- encoder   Best Quality for Lossy Encoding of Audiobooks?   Nov 27 2012, 15:26
- - eahm   You can hear difference if you convert in 64kbps, ...   Nov 27 2012, 15:45
- - Dynamic   QUOTE (encoder @ Nov 27 2012, 14:26) By t...   Nov 27 2012, 18:06
- - DonP   Most of the books on my portable I have in speex. ...   Nov 28 2012, 03:35
- - jensend   As far as the quality-bitrate tradeoff goes, Opus ...   Nov 28 2012, 05:34
|- - DonP   QUOTE (jensend @ Nov 28 2012, 00:34) As f...   Nov 28 2012, 16:04
|- - Dynamic   I agree that at its speech-codec settings (when it...   Nov 28 2012, 19:13
- - encoder   Thanks for the info! This Opus thing looks int...   Nov 28 2012, 13:53
|- - jensend   encoder: Yes, Opus is also somewhat better than th...   Nov 28 2012, 18:23
|- - DonP   QUOTE (jensend @ Nov 28 2012, 13:23) enco...   Nov 28 2012, 19:16
|- - IgorC   QUOTE (DonP @ Nov 28 2012, 15:16) I encod...   Nov 28 2012, 19:27
|- - DonP   QUOTE (IgorC @ Nov 28 2012, 14:27) 1.0.1 ...   Nov 28 2012, 20:32
- - marc2003   QUOTE Default is king, ain't it? no. the ...   Nov 28 2012, 14:53
- - Seren   10kb/s for music I wonder the day this becomes ...   Nov 28 2012, 16:26
- - eahm   10kb/s so 1.25KB/s? For my previous post, of cour...   Nov 28 2012, 16:37
- - eahm   Just tested AAC Apple True VBR Q18 (~75kbps) (the ...   Nov 28 2012, 19:36
|- - eahm   QUOTE (eahm @ Nov 28 2012, 11:36) Just te...   Dec 5 2012, 00:07
|- - IgorC   QUOTE (eahm @ Dec 4 2012, 20:07) Opus (0....   Dec 5 2012, 03:04
- - jensend   A brief bit about Opus's ability to deal with ...   Nov 28 2012, 19:50
- - DonP   For speech, 12 kb/s opus is working fine on the po...   Nov 30 2012, 19:21
|- - jensend   QUOTE (DonP @ Nov 30 2012, 11:21) I hope ...   Dec 1 2012, 01:31
- - eahm   Thanks IgorC. AAC-LC True VBR (qaac/Apple) -V9 (~...   Dec 5 2012, 06:39
- - IgorC   It is recommended to use ABR instead of VBR for e...   Dec 5 2012, 15:01
- - eahm   I don't test or keep track of MP3 too much, I...   Dec 5 2012, 18:29


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