To get into vinyl, or not?, I was set on constructing an analogue system, but.. |
To get into vinyl, or not?, I was set on constructing an analogue system, but.. |
Nov 28 2012, 07:43
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I was set on constructing an analogue system, but I have seen several users criticize the various aspects of the vinyl medium.
(sound quality/accuracy, cost of equipment, effort to play/digitize) I'm 20 years old and have never truly experienced vinyl. However, I am extremely intrigued by it. I very much like the idea of setting up an affordable but quality system to listen to vinyls on. Also, I would be digitizing my dads old albums and some of my own. I look at it as more of a hobby/interest than its practicality regarding current tech and sound quality. I like the idea of starting a record collection and listening to them with my friends. The nostalgia and audio technology are other aspects that interest me (big tech geek here). I'm aware of the imperfections of vinyl's sound and this is why I want to make sure I get a quality system to achieve the best possible sound the LP will produce (within budget). For my system, I had the Pro-Ject Debut Carbon and a pair of decent floor standing speakers in mind but was not set on which components I wanted to use with it (pre-amp + receiver, integrated amp, or just a receiver w/ phono inputs). This was originally the question I was going to ask you guys. Something I could connect my computer to in order to play music files is something I'd like to be able to do. I have always cared about sound quality and the majority of my albums are perfect CD rips (.flac). I currently do not have a hi-fi system to fully enjoy my music on which is another reason why I'm looking to purchase one. Also, this is something I plan to take with me and enjoy for many years to come. -So I ask, how do you like the vinyl experience compared to the CD experience? Can the added complexities with vinyl add to the experience? -Also, if I decide to go for a system, which device(s) combination might produce the best sound quality at a reasonable price? Thanks for any input! |
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Dec 3 2012, 14:43
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![]() Group: Members Posts: 27 Joined: 27-November 12 From: Cincinnati Member No.: 104798 |
The most important thing is to ensure you set up the arm/cartridge properly. I'll definitely have to read up on this. Is it something that should come properly setup out of the box? Or will it require fine tuning? Thanks. CDs can handle a larger dynamic range than LPs. What does sound better: an LP with good mixing or a standard CD with maximum lodness (aka clipping and compression) making it sound flat? Which by the why leads the "better" dynamic range of the CD ad absurdum. An interesting link (maybe): The Loudness War Analyzed If CDs were mixed like LPs used to be I'd go for CD anytime. But for now I keep my old records to remind myself what music used to sound like. Interesting point. Even further justifies my future purchase |
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Dec 3 2012, 16:42
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The most important thing is to ensure you set up the arm/cartridge properly. I'll definitely have to read up on this. Is it something that should come properly setup out of the box? Or will it require fine tuning? Thanks. ... If you're still intent on purchasing the Debut III, then the cartridge will be factory-fitted and adjusted. You may still want to read up on it for future cartridge changes. (Assuming you don't want to just take it to a specialist to have it done. One of my local audio dealers is very knowledgeable and charges a fair price. I personally feel more comfortable that way...up to you.) I highly recommend you use a good stylus brush (Always brush the stylus gently and only in the proper direction/same as that which it operates during playback.) A good carbon-fibre brush should be used on your LPs, even new ones out of the package, like this one here. -------------------- The Loudness War is over. Now it's a hopeless occupation.
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almostmitch To get into vinyl, or not? Nov 28 2012, 07:43
Glenn Gundlach QUOTE (almostmitch @ Nov 27 2012, 22:43) ... Nov 28 2012, 08:18
Light-Fire QUOTE (almostmitch @ Nov 28 2012, 02:43) ... Nov 28 2012, 08:19
Nessuno Upon reading the first post I was preparing to wri... Nov 28 2012, 09:08
clobon QUOTE (Light-Fire @ Nov 28 2012, 09... Nov 30 2012, 16:30
Engelsstaub Do it, almostmitch.
The Pro-Ject Debut III is a d... Nov 28 2012, 09:01
Kohlrabi The merits of vinyl are larger artwork (if you car... Nov 28 2012, 09:46
Porcus What about the following compromise:
- listen to ... Nov 28 2012, 10:38
dhromed Vinyl is entirely about the ritual around the medi... Nov 28 2012, 10:50
Engelsstaub QUOTE (dhromed @ Nov 28 2012, 04:50) Viny... Nov 28 2012, 13:42
2Bdecided It's fun (if you like that kind of fun), but a... Nov 28 2012, 11:01
Destroid QUOTE (2Bdecided @ Nov 28 2012, 11:01) Ot... Nov 28 2012, 12:13
rgtb QUOTE (Engelsstaub @ Nov 28 2012, 13:42) ... Nov 28 2012, 15:57
Engelsstaub QUOTE (rgtb @ Nov 28 2012, 09:57) ...I ra... Nov 28 2012, 18:19
mjb2006 Digitizing vinyl is fun and educational. You are e... Nov 28 2012, 17:17
krabapple QUOTE (mjb2006 @ Nov 28 2012, 11:17) As f... Dec 4 2012, 03:16
cliveb I have a soft spot for vinyl, but let's not tr... Nov 28 2012, 17:59
almostmitch Thanks for the responses guys, great input. I... Nov 28 2012, 18:08
greynol QUOTE (almostmitch @ Nov 28 2012, 09:08) ... Nov 28 2012, 18:53
Porcus QUOTE (almostmitch @ Nov 28 2012, 18:08) ... Nov 28 2012, 19:42
almostmitch QUOTE (mjb2006 @ Nov 28 2012, 11:17) Digi... Nov 28 2012, 22:08
Engelsstaub QUOTE (almostmitch @ Nov 28 2012, 16:08) ... Nov 29 2012, 03:42
DVDdoug I grew up with vinyl, and I always hated the ... Nov 28 2012, 23:22
Porcus If you are playing old vinyls, and at the risk of ... Nov 29 2012, 10:20
2Bdecided QUOTE (cliveb @ Nov 28 2012, 16:59) I hav... Nov 29 2012, 10:51
dhromed QUOTE (2Bdecided @ Nov 29 2012, 10:51) Li... Nov 29 2012, 11:34
pdq QUOTE (dhromed @ Nov 29 2012, 05:34) QUOT... Nov 29 2012, 14:38
RonaldDumsfeld QUOTE which device(s) combination might produce th... Nov 29 2012, 13:12
almostmitch QUOTE (DVDdoug @ Nov 28 2012, 17:22) When... Nov 29 2012, 16:08
Engelsstaub QUOTE (almostmitch @ Nov 29 2012, 10:08) ... Nov 29 2012, 17:19
pdq I wouldn't worry about impedances and wattage ... Nov 29 2012, 16:31
DVDdoug QUOTE One thing I'm still unsure about is impe... Nov 29 2012, 20:12
almostmitch QUOTE (pdq @ Nov 29 2012, 10:31) I wouldn... Nov 29 2012, 22:26
botface The most important thing is to ensure you set up t... Nov 30 2012, 09:42
RonaldDumsfeld QUOTE I'd feel safer spending an extra $1... Nov 30 2012, 14:40

rgtb QUOTE (Engelsstaub @ Dec 3 2012, 16:42) A... Dec 4 2012, 08:24

cliveb QUOTE (rgtb @ Dec 4 2012, 07:24) in what ... Dec 4 2012, 10:09

Engelsstaub QUOTE (rgtb @ Dec 4 2012, 02:24) QUOTE (E... Dec 4 2012, 15:46

rgtb QUOTE (Engelsstaub @ Dec 4 2012, 15:46) I... Dec 4 2012, 17:58

Engelsstaub QUOTE (rgtb @ Dec 4 2012, 11:58) QUOTE (E... Dec 4 2012, 22:08
botface QUOTE (almostmitch @ Dec 3 2012, 13:43) Q... Dec 3 2012, 19:49
almostmitch QUOTE (Engelsstaub @ Dec 3 2012, 10:42) I... Dec 3 2012, 18:20
almostmitch QUOTE (botface @ Dec 3 2012, 13:49) I gue... Dec 3 2012, 20:15
greynol When you say something without obvious emphasis (b... Dec 5 2012, 00:09
Engelsstaub That's fair enough, greynol. I was providing h... Dec 5 2012, 00:22
greynol Yes, that you have been helpful was not lost on me... Dec 5 2012, 07:51
Engelsstaub I apologize for the tone and my part in the bicker... Dec 5 2012, 15:14
almostmitch QUOTE (Engelsstaub @ Dec 5 2012, 09:14) A... Dec 5 2012, 15:52
cliveb QUOTE (almostmitch @ Dec 5 2012, 14:52) I... Dec 5 2012, 16:25
Engelsstaub Mine has a plastic flange, so I would actually pre... Dec 5 2012, 16:54
2Bdecided I've had two Goldrings, bought from the same s... Dec 5 2012, 17:26
Nessuno I have one of those with plastic pivoting flange (... Dec 5 2012, 18:30
Engelsstaub QUOTE (Nessuno @ Dec 5 2012, 11:30) ...
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cliveb QUOTE (Engelsstaub @ Dec 5 2012, 18:08) I... Dec 5 2012, 20:36
Engelsstaub QUOTE (cliveb @ Dec 5 2012, 13:36) QUOTE ... Dec 5 2012, 21:04
J.Philippe One thing that might be worth mentioning is that m... Dec 5 2012, 18:21![]() ![]() |
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