To get into vinyl, or not?, I was set on constructing an analogue system, but.. |
To get into vinyl, or not?, I was set on constructing an analogue system, but.. |
Nov 28 2012, 07:43
Post
#1
|
|
![]() Group: Members Posts: 27 Joined: 27-November 12 From: Cincinnati Member No.: 104798 |
I was set on constructing an analogue system, but I have seen several users criticize the various aspects of the vinyl medium.
(sound quality/accuracy, cost of equipment, effort to play/digitize) I'm 20 years old and have never truly experienced vinyl. However, I am extremely intrigued by it. I very much like the idea of setting up an affordable but quality system to listen to vinyls on. Also, I would be digitizing my dads old albums and some of my own. I look at it as more of a hobby/interest than its practicality regarding current tech and sound quality. I like the idea of starting a record collection and listening to them with my friends. The nostalgia and audio technology are other aspects that interest me (big tech geek here). I'm aware of the imperfections of vinyl's sound and this is why I want to make sure I get a quality system to achieve the best possible sound the LP will produce (within budget). For my system, I had the Pro-Ject Debut Carbon and a pair of decent floor standing speakers in mind but was not set on which components I wanted to use with it (pre-amp + receiver, integrated amp, or just a receiver w/ phono inputs). This was originally the question I was going to ask you guys. Something I could connect my computer to in order to play music files is something I'd like to be able to do. I have always cared about sound quality and the majority of my albums are perfect CD rips (.flac). I currently do not have a hi-fi system to fully enjoy my music on which is another reason why I'm looking to purchase one. Also, this is something I plan to take with me and enjoy for many years to come. -So I ask, how do you like the vinyl experience compared to the CD experience? Can the added complexities with vinyl add to the experience? -Also, if I decide to go for a system, which device(s) combination might produce the best sound quality at a reasonable price? Thanks for any input! |
|
|
|
![]() |
Nov 29 2012, 10:20
Post
#2
|
|
![]() Group: Members Posts: 1516 Joined: 30-November 06 Member No.: 38207 |
If you are playing old vinyls, and at the risk of TOS#8:
Not only will the stylus matter, but the wear from previous stylii will also. You may actually expensive less wear-related noise with a tip that has smaller radius, which will read the groove where it hasn't been that much worn ... then OTOH, that might mean digging in the dirt. Some drawings here. Other HA users might fill in details, and, likely, corrections – I haven't played vinyl since the Ortofon MC30 Super. As always, there will be lots of pseudoscience around the 'net, especially in the higher price brackets. (S(h)urely, a $2000 Rohmann has to sound excellent and for some damn good reason, or what?) From the historical records [sic]: http://shure.custhelp.com/app/answers/deta...and-record-wear -------------------- geocities.com/hydrogenaudio: http://goo.gl/tqYZj
|
|
|
|
Nov 29 2012, 10:51
Post
#3
|
|
![]() ReplayGain developer Group: Developer Posts: 4615 Joined: 5-November 01 From: Yorkshire, UK Member No.: 409 |
I have a soft spot for vinyl, but let's not try and kid ourselves that it's a superior method of experiencing music. Listen to this man. He is too modest to tell you just how much experience he has with vinyl.I have an analogy for you. Some people are really into old cars. There is something "soulful" about them, and their incompetent handling and useless brakes can impart some degree of fun. But they are nowhere near as efficient a means of transport as a modern car. Vinyl's a bit like that. The care required to get the best out of it is a bit like the high degree of maintenance required to keep an old car on the road. Who knows, you might be the type of person who enjoys the effort required in getting a good sound from vinyl. But if your goal is to hear recorded music as well as possible, and you're wondering if by some chance vinyl is the route to achieving that, don't bother - it isn't. (With one possible exception - the mastering of some CD reissues is so messed up that the original vinyl does actually sound better). From the historical records [sic]: http://shure.custhelp.com/app/answers/deta...and-record-wear I like that. Interesting claim that a perfect condition diamond stylus causes no wear on a perfectly clean record, but that after couple of hundred hours use the stylus is worn to a very damaging shape.Cheers, David. This post has been edited by 2Bdecided: Nov 29 2012, 10:51 |
|
|
|
almostmitch To get into vinyl, or not? Nov 28 2012, 07:43
Glenn Gundlach QUOTE (almostmitch @ Nov 27 2012, 22:43) ... Nov 28 2012, 08:18
Light-Fire QUOTE (almostmitch @ Nov 28 2012, 02:43) ... Nov 28 2012, 08:19
Nessuno Upon reading the first post I was preparing to wri... Nov 28 2012, 09:08
clobon QUOTE (Light-Fire @ Nov 28 2012, 09... Nov 30 2012, 16:30
Engelsstaub Do it, almostmitch.
The Pro-Ject Debut III is a d... Nov 28 2012, 09:01
Kohlrabi The merits of vinyl are larger artwork (if you car... Nov 28 2012, 09:46
Porcus What about the following compromise:
- listen to ... Nov 28 2012, 10:38
dhromed Vinyl is entirely about the ritual around the medi... Nov 28 2012, 10:50
Engelsstaub QUOTE (dhromed @ Nov 28 2012, 04:50) Viny... Nov 28 2012, 13:42
2Bdecided It's fun (if you like that kind of fun), but a... Nov 28 2012, 11:01
Destroid QUOTE (2Bdecided @ Nov 28 2012, 11:01) Ot... Nov 28 2012, 12:13
rgtb QUOTE (Engelsstaub @ Nov 28 2012, 13:42) ... Nov 28 2012, 15:57
Engelsstaub QUOTE (rgtb @ Nov 28 2012, 09:57) ...I ra... Nov 28 2012, 18:19
mjb2006 Digitizing vinyl is fun and educational. You are e... Nov 28 2012, 17:17
krabapple QUOTE (mjb2006 @ Nov 28 2012, 11:17) As f... Dec 4 2012, 03:16
cliveb I have a soft spot for vinyl, but let's not tr... Nov 28 2012, 17:59
almostmitch Thanks for the responses guys, great input. I... Nov 28 2012, 18:08
greynol QUOTE (almostmitch @ Nov 28 2012, 09:08) ... Nov 28 2012, 18:53
Porcus QUOTE (almostmitch @ Nov 28 2012, 18:08) ... Nov 28 2012, 19:42
almostmitch QUOTE (mjb2006 @ Nov 28 2012, 11:17) Digi... Nov 28 2012, 22:08
Engelsstaub QUOTE (almostmitch @ Nov 28 2012, 16:08) ... Nov 29 2012, 03:42
DVDdoug I grew up with vinyl, and I always hated the ... Nov 28 2012, 23:22
dhromed QUOTE (2Bdecided @ Nov 29 2012, 10:51) Li... Nov 29 2012, 11:34
pdq QUOTE (dhromed @ Nov 29 2012, 05:34) QUOT... Nov 29 2012, 14:38
RonaldDumsfeld QUOTE which device(s) combination might produce th... Nov 29 2012, 13:12
almostmitch QUOTE (DVDdoug @ Nov 28 2012, 17:22) When... Nov 29 2012, 16:08
Engelsstaub QUOTE (almostmitch @ Nov 29 2012, 10:08) ... Nov 29 2012, 17:19
pdq I wouldn't worry about impedances and wattage ... Nov 29 2012, 16:31
DVDdoug QUOTE One thing I'm still unsure about is impe... Nov 29 2012, 20:12
almostmitch QUOTE (pdq @ Nov 29 2012, 10:31) I wouldn... Nov 29 2012, 22:26
botface The most important thing is to ensure you set up t... Nov 30 2012, 09:42
RonaldDumsfeld QUOTE I'd feel safer spending an extra $1... Nov 30 2012, 14:40
almostmitch QUOTE (botface @ Nov 30 2012, 03:42) The ... Dec 3 2012, 14:43
Engelsstaub QUOTE (almostmitch @ Dec 3 2012, 08:43) Q... Dec 3 2012, 16:42

rgtb QUOTE (Engelsstaub @ Dec 3 2012, 16:42) A... Dec 4 2012, 08:24

cliveb QUOTE (rgtb @ Dec 4 2012, 07:24) in what ... Dec 4 2012, 10:09

Engelsstaub QUOTE (rgtb @ Dec 4 2012, 02:24) QUOTE (E... Dec 4 2012, 15:46

rgtb QUOTE (Engelsstaub @ Dec 4 2012, 15:46) I... Dec 4 2012, 17:58

Engelsstaub QUOTE (rgtb @ Dec 4 2012, 11:58) QUOTE (E... Dec 4 2012, 22:08
botface QUOTE (almostmitch @ Dec 3 2012, 13:43) Q... Dec 3 2012, 19:49
almostmitch QUOTE (Engelsstaub @ Dec 3 2012, 10:42) I... Dec 3 2012, 18:20
almostmitch QUOTE (botface @ Dec 3 2012, 13:49) I gue... Dec 3 2012, 20:15
greynol When you say something without obvious emphasis (b... Dec 5 2012, 00:09
Engelsstaub That's fair enough, greynol. I was providing h... Dec 5 2012, 00:22
greynol Yes, that you have been helpful was not lost on me... Dec 5 2012, 07:51
Engelsstaub I apologize for the tone and my part in the bicker... Dec 5 2012, 15:14
almostmitch QUOTE (Engelsstaub @ Dec 5 2012, 09:14) A... Dec 5 2012, 15:52
cliveb QUOTE (almostmitch @ Dec 5 2012, 14:52) I... Dec 5 2012, 16:25
Engelsstaub Mine has a plastic flange, so I would actually pre... Dec 5 2012, 16:54
2Bdecided I've had two Goldrings, bought from the same s... Dec 5 2012, 17:26
Nessuno I have one of those with plastic pivoting flange (... Dec 5 2012, 18:30
Engelsstaub QUOTE (Nessuno @ Dec 5 2012, 11:30) ...
... Dec 5 2012, 19:08
cliveb QUOTE (Engelsstaub @ Dec 5 2012, 18:08) I... Dec 5 2012, 20:36
Engelsstaub QUOTE (cliveb @ Dec 5 2012, 13:36) QUOTE ... Dec 5 2012, 21:04
J.Philippe One thing that might be worth mentioning is that m... Dec 5 2012, 18:21![]() ![]() |
|
Lo-Fi Version | Time is now: 19th June 2013 - 13:05 |