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Killer sample for Opus and Lame
Gainless
post Nov 30 2012, 18:00
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Attached File  Sycho_Active__Sample_.flac ( 511.38K ) Number of downloads: 324

Tested with 192 kbps/-V 2 and the recent versions of the codecs (Opus git from the 28th November, Lame 3.100a2).

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foo_abx 1.3.4 report
foobar2000 v1.1.16
2012/11/30 17:21:08

File A: C:\...\Desktop\beatspace-zoomusic - ATOMIC PULSE - Sycho Active.flac
File B: C:\...\Desktop\beatspace-zoomusic - ATOMIC PULSE - Sycho Active.opus

17:21:08 : Test started.
17:21:38 : 01/01  50.0%
17:22:05 : 01/02  75.0%
17:22:25 : 02/03  50.0%
17:22:35 : 03/04  31.3%
17:22:44 : 04/05  18.8%
17:22:53 : 05/06  10.9%
17:23:03 : 06/07  6.3%
17:23:19 : 07/08  3.5%
17:23:39 : 08/09  2.0%
17:23:53 : 09/10  1.1%
17:24:06 : 10/11  0.6%
17:24:19 : 11/12  0.3%
17:24:31 : 12/13  0.2%
17:24:39 : 13/14  0.1%
17:24:49 : 14/15  0.0%
17:24:55 : Test finished.

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Total: 14/15 (0.0%)

foo_abx 1.3.4 report
foobar2000 v1.1.16
2012/11/30 17:34:56

File A: C:\...\Sycho Active (Sample).flac
File B: C:\...\Sycho Active (Sample).mp3

17:34:56 : Test started.
17:35:15 : 01/01  50.0%
17:35:26 : 02/02  25.0%
17:36:28 : 03/03  12.5%
17:36:52 : 04/04  6.3%
17:37:10 : 05/05  3.1%
17:37:33 : 06/06  1.6%
17:38:37 : 07/07  0.8%
17:39:34 : 08/08  0.4%
17:39:55 : 09/09  0.2%
17:41:22 : 10/10  0.1%
17:42:20 : 11/11  0.0%
17:42:25 : Test finished.

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Total: 11/11 (0.0%)


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post Nov 30 2012, 18:08
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What settings?
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post Nov 30 2012, 18:13
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Sorry, post is now updated.

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post Feb 16 2013, 01:04
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my first post

be amazed of the mighty 3.90.3
in the quality domain
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post Feb 16 2013, 17:35
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Provide ABX logs proving your enthusiastic claims about a version of LAME that’s over 11 years old, or stop bumping them into every old thread you can find.

HA was practically founded upon LAME 3.90.3, yet thankfully, very few people here are so resistant to progress – or, dare I say, zealous – as to downplay everything the developers of LAME have done since then.
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post Feb 16 2013, 17:51
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@polfmx: Did you compare 3.90.3 CBR 320 with current Lame CBR 320 and/or -V0? I guess you didn't. In this case your claims are worth nothing at all.


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post Feb 16 2013, 19:35
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Also 3.90.3 really suffers from strong added noises on many samples using ap-s or even ap-e. This behaviour was only cured in recent versions. Try to find the old "WIND_Saxophone" sample. It is really ugly and just shows the problem at its best. There is much more of that kind around.
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All very good points.

I think it's best if we just direct the new member to this link:
http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index....showtopic=16295

Please realize that this thread should be about looking forward since that is what has happened since 3.90.3. That we are even discussing this long deprecated codec should make it plainly evident that this topic is going down the wrong path.

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post Feb 17 2013, 11:19
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QUOTE (greynol @ Feb 16 2013, 15:00) *
All very good points.

I think it's best if we just direct the new member to this link:
http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index....showtopic=16295

Please realize that this thread should be about looking forward since that is what has happened since 3.90.3. That we are even discussing this long deprecated codec should make it plainly evident that this topic is going down the wrong path.



I believe the process of proper use of the tool and training my ears to the ABX could take me about 10 sessions because I only can do a good hearing session once per week.
of topic but to learn how those atifacts are heard, Could someone please make available the erhu and the wind_saxophone samples?

I apologize of the enthusiastic claim,
but @Gainless was difficult to you to ABX the sample?, I will appreciate if you let me know this because I saw your interest in the high frequencies and IIRC high bitrates too, and I guess that you are listening more in it than other difficult samples(?)
I like not to miss of and hear the upper frequencies parts in music, I already grasp about sfb21, but you know mp3 is appealing in a lot of ways; it should be thousands pieces with air out there like this, of Pink Floyd

thank you Wombat

please help me to be constructive,
just my beginner's luck






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post Feb 17 2013, 11:44
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QUOTE (polfmx @ Feb 17 2013, 11:19) *
but @Gainless was difficult to you to ABX the sample?, I will appreciate if you let me know this because I saw your interest in the high frequencies and IIRC high bitrates too, and I guess that you are listening more in it than other difficult samples(?)
I like not to miss of and hear the upper frequencies parts in music, I already grasp about sfb21, but you know mp3 is appealing in a lot of ways; it should be thousands pieces with air out there like this, of Pink Floyd

Which sample, the SA one, your mp3 encode of it, or the one from your recent post? Not sure what you mean with my "interest" in high frequencies btw, I do a bit of general sample observation for lossy codecs here, that's pretty much all.

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