Helix vs. Lame, Which one to choose at higher bitrates? |
Helix vs. Lame, Which one to choose at higher bitrates? |
Dec 31 2012, 04:21
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So I've seen that Helix was rated equal if not superior to Lame at the last mp3 listening test. I've done a few tests with Helix on my own at 192 kbps with the result that it does a lot better than Lame on many "killer" samples. However there are issues with the handling of high frequencies at bass heavy material, e.g. that quite audible content is removed when a kick appears (was also noticed in this thread), which seems to be little dependent on how high the choosen bitrate/quality is.
From that perspective alone I would prefer Helix, also regarding the encoding speed, but I don't know if this is the only "Achilles heel" of this encoder. Are there any other reasons than the performance at high frequencies to choose Lame qualitywise over Helix? This post has been edited by Gainless: Dec 31 2012, 04:41 |
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Jan 5 2013, 16:54
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I think I've found the reason for the mentioned poor high frequency handling, at least in some cases. It seems to be simply a bug that content at the right beginning of a file is not encoded properly. If this "beginning" part is set somewhere else, everything's fine again. Can it be fixed somehow?
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Gainless Helix vs. Lame Dec 31 2012, 04:21
BFG QUOTE (Gainless @ Dec 30 2012, 21:21) So ... Dec 31 2012, 05:16
Gainless You can find the listening test here. The killer s... Dec 31 2012, 11:31
halb27 QUOTE (Gainless @ Dec 31 2012, 11:31) You... Dec 31 2012, 13:39
Gainless QUOTE (halb27 @ Dec 31 2012, 13:39) If yo... Dec 31 2012, 14:30
halb27 Thanks for testing.
Does Helix provide a better qu... Dec 31 2012, 18:15
Wombat QUOTE (Gainless @ Dec 31 2012, 05:21) Fro... Dec 31 2012, 19:39
Gainless QUOTE (halb27 @ Dec 31 2012, 18:15) Thank... Dec 31 2012, 22:33
DonP QUOTE (Gainless @ Dec 31 2012, 16:33) QUO... Dec 31 2012, 23:42
Gainless You mean like fades between songs on an album? For... Jan 1 2013, 03:49
BFG This thread makes me wonder if the LAME and Helix ... Jan 1 2013, 07:44

saratoga QUOTE (BFG @ Jan 1 2013, 01:44) This thre... Jan 1 2013, 08:54

BFG QUOTE (saratoga @ Jan 1 2013, 01:54) Gene... Jan 2 2013, 01:19
db1989 QUOTE (Gainless @ Jan 1 2013, 02:49) You ... Jan 1 2013, 12:22
IgorC While one MP3 encoder puts a short block another w... Jan 2 2013, 03:15![]() ![]() |
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