Turntable not spinning fast enough on 45 |
Turntable not spinning fast enough on 45 |
Jan 5 2013, 01:48
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I have (now) a GemSound BJL-1150. The problem I'm having is that the 45 rotation is quite slow and is noticeable in playing. The 33 seems to be fine though. I checked the belt and it's still in working order. Any ideas?
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Jan 6 2013, 04:42
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Probably a stupid question but I know that playing a 33 LP at 45 and then slowing it down compromises the quality, but wouldn't the same thing happen if I play a 45 at 33 and then speed it up? (Yes I do plan to record some records off of it)
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Jan 6 2013, 06:11
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Group: Members Posts: 307 Joined: 19-April 08 From: LA Member No.: 52914 |
Probably a stupid question but I know that playing a 33 LP at 45 and then slowing it down compromises the quality, but wouldn't the same thing happen if I play a 45 at 33 and then speed it up? (Yes I do plan to record some records off of it) If the speed is only off a few percent 'tweaking' it in digital is OK. I don't know how big a problem it is but the RIAA curves crossover points should really track the speed difference but it's probably more of an OCD thing. Question: You say the speed control is still slow when at +10%, is the speed _range_ about right? Does it seem to go to -20% less ? A 20% span would be a little more than 3 semitones. G² |
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Jan 6 2013, 06:52
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Probably a stupid question but I know that playing a 33 LP at 45 and then slowing it down compromises the quality, but wouldn't the same thing happen if I play a 45 at 33 and then speed it up? (Yes I do plan to record some records off of it) If the speed is only off a few percent 'tweaking' it in digital is OK. I don't know how big a problem it is but the RIAA curves crossover points should really track the speed difference but it's probably more of an OCD thing. Question: You say the speed control is still slow when at +10%, is the speed _range_ about right? Does it seem to go to -20% less ? A 20% span would be a little more than 3 semitones. G² Well I just posted a similar question over at the Audacity forums, and used the formula to determine the actual RPM. I did a test with a 12" single I have and put it on 45 with pitch adjustment at max (10%). The result was approximately 44.826 RPM, which bugged me, so close but not there. But its enough that I can notice. |
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Jan 6 2013, 07:57
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You can increase the speed slightly by applying a twist to the belt before it loops around the pulley. [One high-end TT maker a decade or two ago, Well-Tempered, used to do this as a normal course of action, claiming it reduced flutter.] Depending on if you flip it around one way or the other [top edge flipped away from the main platter vs toward the platter] the belt may have a tendency to ride around the pulley rather high or rather low. Try both ways and see what gets you to the speed you want.
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Jan 6 2013, 16:22
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powerstone05 Turntable not spinning fast enough on 45 Jan 5 2013, 01:48
DVDdoug How's the torque? Does it seem like the belt ... Jan 5 2013, 02:22
powerstone05 Well looking at it, the turntable appears to use j... Jan 5 2013, 03:42
Glenn Gundlach QUOTE (powerstone05 @ Jan 4 2013, 16:48) ... Jan 5 2013, 04:36
powerstone05 QUOTE (Glenn Gundlach @ Jan 4 2013, 23:36... Jan 5 2013, 06:11
mzil Short of getting it fixed or buying a new turntabl... Jan 5 2013, 06:57
mzil The turntable designer Bill Firebaugh described th... Jan 6 2013, 17:53
mzil ^Here's a pic:
http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=... Jan 6 2013, 15:44![]() ![]() |
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