New lossless codec comparison (Jan '13), Lots of test results, lots of graphs |
New lossless codec comparison (Jan '13), Lots of test results, lots of graphs |
Jan 5 2013, 21:58
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Hi all,
For the last few weeks I've been busy writing a new lossless audio codec comparison, after lots of talk about it here and here. The full test report can be found here (PDF), the raw data and graphs can be found here (zip). While the full report has lots of graphs it also has lots of text, so the 'main' graphs of the report are posted below. ![]() ![]() The CDs used
For more information on why I chose these CDs, what strange things happened with the pure speech data (Dan Browns audiobook) and tests on 96kHz/24-bit or surround sound audio, check the full report. Its labeled revision 1 because I intend to keep it updated. Any comment (on my grammar too, as I'm not a native speaker) is welcome. -------------------- Music: sounds arranged such that they construct feelings.
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Jan 20 2013, 14:31
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Is sourceforge slowly dying? This is not the first time lately I can't access SF resource. I haven't had any problems lately? QUOTE and bitmap instead vector graphs, makes some graphs hardly readable. To me the charts are very confused (poor color readability, squares too small). I know of a few PDF-readers which do not scaling bitmap-images properly indeed, however, the toolkit I used was bitmap only. The problem with bigger squares is that they tend to overlap (which they already do with this size) It's a pity you didn't include CUETools Flake/FlacCL encoders, FLAC format is capable of so much more, and the limitations of libFLAC hide that. I tried, but couldn't get it running on my notebook. I should try harder I guess. The problem is that there are a few FLAC-encoders out there, but including them might be confusing. Not everyone understands the difference between an codec and a format, just see MP3-vs-LAME: People complain about MP3 while they are actually complaining about the rubbish encoder some used. I might include it in the next revision of this document. Can you briefly explain what changed in the outcome compared to your own 2009 and Synthetic Soul's 2008 test? Nothing stunning really. TAK is even faster now on encoding and ALS -7 didn't work as well as it did last time. So nothing surprising on the part of CD-audio. However, in the PDF there are a few graphs on 96kHz/24bit audio ("High-res") and multichannel audio. Nothing very exciting there either, but some codecs have some pecularities, for example, FLAC being slower than usual on both encoding and decoding when compared to other codecs. There's a note on the performance of MLP (that's the codec used for Audio DVD's) too. The only unusual results are on stereo-encoded mono, which was already known to be a problem with some encoders. So, in short, nothing really new or stunning, but I think it's just a fair comparison encompassing a wide range of musical genre's. The only conclusion that I draw from this which wasn't drawn before AFAIK, is that there's no codec that behaves particularly good or bad at certain kinds of music: choral music gives you about the same pattern as heavy metal, only the average compression achieved is different. If you want to see that for yourself, see the raw data, which includes graphs for all CDs I tested. -------------------- Music: sounds arranged such that they construct feelings.
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ktf New lossless codec comparison (Jan '13) Jan 5 2013, 21:58
IgorC ktf,
Thank You for sharing interesting comparison... Jan 6 2013, 18:41
ktf QUOTE (IgorC @ Jan 6 2013, 18:41) What de... Jan 6 2013, 19:16
ktf I know lossless audio codec comparisons have lost ... Jan 19 2013, 22:23
urak QUOTE (ktf @ Jan 19 2013, 21:23) but only... Jan 20 2013, 00:29
knutinh what kind of pc hardware did you use? did you use ... Jan 19 2013, 22:30
Fabiolander What a job !
Thank you but could you translat... Jan 19 2013, 22:33
ktf QUOTE (knutinh @ Jan 19 2013, 22:30) what... Jan 19 2013, 22:41
romor Is sourceforge slowly dying? This is not the first... Jan 19 2013, 22:46
Gregory S. Chudov Great job!
Shameless self-promotion on my par... Jan 20 2013, 09:21
C.R.Helmrich QUOTE (Gregory S. Chudov @ Jan 20 2013, 10... Jan 20 2013, 12:18
Dynamic QUOTE (ktf @ Jan 20 2013, 13:31) So, in s... Jan 21 2013, 11:17
ktf QUOTE (Dynamic @ Jan 21 2013, 11:17) I su... Jan 21 2013, 14:42
Dynamic I was meaning the average compression for a partic... Jan 21 2013, 21:13
ktf QUOTE (romor @ Jan 19 2013, 22:46) If I m... Mar 19 2013, 09:44
ktf Once again hi all,
Today I've been busy tryin... Mar 21 2013, 22:10
lvqcl BTW, there are command-line WMAL encoder and decod... Mar 22 2013, 15:09
spicymeatball77 I've got a bit of a noob question. I just Roc... Apr 5 2013, 14:26
marc2003 QUOTE (spicymeatball77 @ Apr 5 2013, 14:2... Apr 5 2013, 18:33
ChronoSphere QUOTE (spicymeatball77 @ Apr 5 2013, 15:2... Apr 7 2013, 14:31
Dynamic Yes, and the flac -8 point is the leftmost value o... Apr 5 2013, 17:13
Propheticus If I look at those graphs I see no point in using ... Apr 5 2013, 18:10
db1989 QUOTE (Propheticus @ Apr 5 2013, 18:10) I... Apr 5 2013, 18:34
Propheticus Yes -4 is the most clear point as you said. But -5... Apr 5 2013, 19:15
spicymeatball77 I transcoded my FLACs from -8 to -5 and there was ... Apr 5 2013, 20:13
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