High Bitrate ~320kbps MP3 vs. Lossless audio, Spoiler: mp3s were TRANSCODED from Lame free-format. |
High Bitrate ~320kbps MP3 vs. Lossless audio, Spoiler: mp3s were TRANSCODED from Lame free-format. |
Jan 15 2013, 21:11
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Happy New Year and greetings everyone! I know the folks here at Hydrogen audio have been around and back with regards to these tests... Nonetheless, I've been collecting data from around the audio forums since early Dec 2012.
Since early December 2012, I've opened up a survey to see if music lovers & "audiophiles" around the world can tell the difference between high bitrate ~320kbps MP3 against the original un-lossy-compressed CD audio. I'm only planning to collect data until the end of January 2013. So far, I have >70 responses from around the world with 5 continents represented. Folks have been using everything from inexpensive (but good) headphones to megabuck separates >$50K for this. There's 2 weeks left so if you've ever been curious about participating in a blind test or just want to add to the dataset, here's your chance :-). The "test" is relatively simple and consists of 3 musical passages encoded as "Set A" vs. the same songs "Set B"; one of which was MP3 encoded. Come to my blog to download the music and fill out the survey: Archimago's Musings Thanks and have a wonderful 2013! This post has been edited by db1989: Jan 15 2013, 21:16 |
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Feb 2 2013, 18:14
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Wow, I can't believe I once had this topic in validated news.
Two words for you, Archimago: temporal smearing You should have studied up on the block-size limitations of mp3 and how that makes it particularly vulnerable to the pitfalls of lossy-lossy transcoding before making such a bone-headed mistake. Any sort of statistical results are going to determine the audibility of transcoded mp3 against lossless long before they can even begin to apply to high-bitrate mp3 against lossless. This post has been edited by greynol: Feb 5 2013, 02:22 -------------------- Everything sounds the same until it is proven otherwise.
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Archimago High Bitrate ~320kbps MP3 vs. Lossless audio Jan 15 2013, 21:11
pdq Just out of curiosity, which forums have you been ... Jan 15 2013, 21:31
krabapple QUOTE (pdq @ Jan 15 2013, 15:31) Just out... Jan 16 2013, 09:02
Destroid QUOTE I've opened up a survey to see if music ... Jan 16 2013, 12:02
db1989 QUOTE (Destroid @ Jan 16 2013, 11:02) 1. ... Jan 16 2013, 13:00
Destroid Ok, thanks for catching my rash assumption.
So, I... Jan 16 2013, 13:34
DonP QUOTE (Destroid @ Jan 16 2013, 07:34) My ... Jan 16 2013, 14:50
Kohlrabi Reading the test description one flaw seems to be ... Jan 16 2013, 13:57
DonP QUOTE (Kohlrabi @ Jan 16 2013, 07:57) Som... Jan 16 2013, 16:39

Archimago QUOTE (DonP @ Jan 16 2013, 07:39) QUOTE (... Jan 20 2013, 01:08
Archimago QUOTE (Kohlrabi @ Jan 16 2013, 04:57) Rea... Jan 20 2013, 01:11
pdq There is a further problem. Suppose that a listene... Jan 16 2013, 14:40
2Bdecided I'm sure there are examples of 320kbps mp3s be... Jan 16 2013, 16:00
testyou I'm going to decline your invitation Archimago... Jan 17 2013, 04:28
Archimago QUOTE (testyou @ Jan 16 2013, 19:28) I... Jan 20 2013, 00:57
Archimago FINAL CALL!
Closes next week. So far 124 resp... Jan 25 2013, 21:10
Archimago Study complete! Total respondents - 151.
Fol... Feb 1 2013, 22:39
C.R.Helmrich From your blog:
QUOTE This utilizes LAME's ... Feb 2 2013, 18:07
Kohlrabi I (and others) did question the approach before th... Feb 2 2013, 20:07
greynol It's pretty obvious the OP registered here onl... Feb 2 2013, 20:16
Archimago Hang on guys, you're perhaps misinterpreting t... Feb 3 2013, 07:57
Canar QUOTE (Archimago @ Feb 2 2013, 22:57) An ... Feb 3 2013, 08:40

Archimago QUOTE (Canar @ Feb 2 2013, 23:40) QUOTE (... Feb 3 2013, 08:54

C.R.Helmrich Fair enough, given that you apparently didn't ... Feb 3 2013, 16:01

Archimago QUOTE (C.R.Helmrich @ Feb 3 2013, 07:01) ... Feb 3 2013, 17:32

C.R.Helmrich QUOTE (Archimago @ Feb 3 2013, 17:32) The... Feb 3 2013, 20:48

Archimago QUOTE (C.R.Helmrich @ Feb 3 2013, 11:48) ... Feb 3 2013, 23:56
Kohlrabi QUOTE (Archimago @ Feb 3 2013, 07:57) Thi... Feb 3 2013, 16:56
Archimago QUOTE (Kohlrabi @ Feb 3 2013, 07:56) QUOT... Feb 3 2013, 17:37
db1989 I question whether some factor related to the spec... Feb 3 2013, 19:05
Dynamic It's always going to be tough to let people lo... Feb 4 2013, 11:48
Archimago Thanks for the eloquent response Dynamic.
Would y... Feb 5 2013, 01:38![]() ![]() |
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