Restricted Listening Tests?, Restricted bandwidth and high-end DAC's |
Restricted Listening Tests?, Restricted bandwidth and high-end DAC's |
Jan 28 2013, 23:06
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Group: Members Posts: 5 Joined: 23-January 13 Member No.: 106123 |
Hi All,
I have been doing a lot of web research on high-end DAC's. Just ordered a Lavry DA11 to see some things for myself. But of the top 3 that I have found -- Mytek, Lavry, and Benchmark, I hear consistent comments about how much they open up the soundstage, compared to lesser systems like my MOTU 828 and Ultralights. I do research into full-spectrum musical hearing correction for musicians and audiophiles. Many of us have lost portions of our hearing due to a variety of factors -- industrial noise, illness, misspent youth... I wonder if anyone has tried an audio shootout among these high end converters using explicitly restricted bandwidth, say a steep lowpass filter at 10 kHz. For those with hearing impairment, there isn't much to be done about losses above 10 kHz. So apart from my anticpated comparison between a Lavry DA11 and the MOTU 828mk3, I would be interested to hear the impressions from avid, careful, listeners under conditions of restricted bandwidth playback. Can any difference be detected? or do you really need the "air" above 10 kHz to realize the differences so often noted for low-jitter accurate playback systems? - DM |
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Jan 29 2013, 19:51
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I also would be interesting in this proposal.
I have a MOTU Ultralite already. When I first bought it I put it to the question by looping it 4x (all I had cables for at the time). Couldn't tell the difference. In fact it was so difficult I gave up trying as a waste of time very quickly. I also recorded vinyl rips and compared the rips to the original. Couldn't tell the difference there either. Not saying it's impossible for everyone but is is with my ears. That said, if I had my time again I would have saved up a bit longer and bought something from RME. Better design, better support, better software and particularly better ongoing software support are worth paying for in the long run even if there are truly no sonic differences. Dunno if Lavry, Benchmark et al meet those same criteria. |
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dbmcclain Restricted Listening Tests? Jan 28 2013, 23:06
AndyH-ha What is needed to hear the difference is a good im... Jan 28 2013, 23:10
dbmcclain QUOTE (AndyH-ha @ Jan 28 2013, 15:10... Jan 28 2013, 23:15
greynol You're going to have a hard time finding objec... Jan 28 2013, 23:17
dbmcclain Interesting... When I feed some worst-case wavefor... Jan 28 2013, 23:20
saratoga QUOTE (dbmcclain @ Jan 28 2013, 17:20) In... Jan 28 2013, 23:59

dbmcclain QUOTE (saratoga @ Jan 28 2013, 15:59) QUO... Jan 29 2013, 00:59

saratoga QUOTE (dbmcclain @ Jan 28 2013, 18:59) My... Jan 29 2013, 03:31
Arnold B. Krueger QUOTE (dbmcclain @ Jan 28 2013, 17:20) In... Jan 29 2013, 15:36
greynol Before going any farther in your pursuit of presen... Jan 28 2013, 23:24
dbmcclain I do agree, although "Graphs" is puzzlin... Jan 28 2013, 23:29
greynol Puzzling or not, the point is that we want to ensu... Jan 28 2013, 23:41
skamp OP: the default hypothesis here is that all DACs t... Jan 28 2013, 23:49
greynol To add, we do grant a certain degree of leniency w... Jan 28 2013, 23:55
Roseval If e.g 10 kHz is the upper threshold of once heari... Jan 29 2013, 00:24
greynol QUOTE (Roseval @ Jan 28 2013, 15:24) I wo... Jan 29 2013, 02:12
saratoga QUOTE (Roseval @ Jan 28 2013, 18:24) The ... Jan 29 2013, 03:26
krabapple QUOTE (dbmcclain @ Jan 28 2013, 18:06) Hi... Jan 29 2013, 04:59
Arnold B. Krueger QUOTE (krabapple @ Jan 28 2013, 22:59) I ... Jan 29 2013, 15:43![]() ![]() |
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