A new discussion on over-compressed CD titles, Split from the one comparing vinyl to CD (no vinyl involved) |
A new discussion on over-compressed CD titles, Split from the one comparing vinyl to CD (no vinyl involved) |
Jan 29 2013, 18:20
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This looks like one for the list of vinyl that beats the CD issue: Is there a reason for not putting this new version out on CD or iTunes? Other than finally giving the world the evidence that Vlado Meller has devastating influence on rock music?http://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/cali...-4#post-8180551 (note - it's only the new vinyl, not the old vinyl). In my opinion there's never a reason why a good-sounding master, as found on any LP, shouldn't be put to CD or iTunes. (And I say that as one who likes and purchases vinyl as much or more than digital.) Yes, fans with competent hearing feeling obliged to buy a new version would be insult enough, but that’s so many times worse when it costs $35 (to quote one figure) and is not properly (=100%) archivable.EDIT: I don't mean any LP has a better sounding master than the CD. Poorly-worded perhaps. And now for something completely different: Is Coldplay’s Mylo Xyloto covered in clipping, or was I imagining it? I have yet to examine any waveforms, but I seem to have noticed a distinct fizziness a couple of times while listening to it, which really doesn’t fit the style (as if clipping ever does, but you know what I mean). This post has been edited by db1989: Feb 1 2013, 17:07
Reason for edit: adding quotes to contextualise first paragraph due to threads being split
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Feb 1 2013, 14:12
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![]() ReplayGain developer Group: Developer Posts: 4615 Joined: 5-November 01 From: Yorkshire, UK Member No.: 409 |
Talking of clipping and distortion: Emeli Sandé - My Kind of Love - WHY?!
You can have very low DR numbers without clipping, and even without compression, if the music isn't very dynamic. Cheers, David. |
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Feb 1 2013, 14:24
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You can have very low DR numbers without clipping, and even without compression, if the music isn't very dynamic. Of course, but on the Oasis' album clipping is clearly audible. But apparently those are harmonics introduced by clipping in analog hardware, rather than brickwall/soft clipping in the digital domain. At least, that is my explanation why Wave Repair does not detect any clipping. |
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Feb 7 2013, 04:34
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Group: Members Posts: 2091 Joined: 18-December 03 Member No.: 10538 |
You can have very low DR numbers without clipping, and even without compression, if the music isn't very dynamic. Of course, but on the Oasis' album clipping is clearly audible. But apparently those are harmonics introduced by clipping in analog hardware, rather than brickwall/soft clipping in the digital domain. At least, that is my explanation why Wave Repair does not detect any clipping. What I see on the Oasis tracks is sequential but slightly variable (non-flattop) peaking, so WR would not detect it as digital clipping |
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db1989 A new discussion on over-compressed CD titles Jan 29 2013, 18:20
Kohlrabi QUOTE (db1989 @ Jan 29 2013, 18:20) And n... Jan 29 2013, 23:13
bug80 QUOTE (Kohlrabi @ Jan 30 2013, 00:13) QUO... Jan 30 2013, 14:31
Kohlrabi QUOTE (bug80 @ Jan 30 2013, 14:31) Pleade... Jan 30 2013, 14:49
bug80 QUOTE (Kohlrabi @ Jan 30 2013, 15:49) QUO... Jan 30 2013, 15:03
cliveb I don't listen to Coldplay, but my wife has a ... Jan 31 2013, 11:16
2Bdecided QUOTE (cliveb @ Jan 31 2013, 10:16) I don... Jan 31 2013, 11:57

cliveb QUOTE (2Bdecided @ Jan 31 2013, 10:57) Ho... Jan 31 2013, 18:17
Engelsstaub QUOTE (cliveb @ Jan 31 2013, 04:16) ...ex... Jan 31 2013, 12:16

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bug80 QUOTE (2Bdecided @ Jan 31 2013, 13:28) QU... Jan 31 2013, 13:37

2Bdecided QUOTE (bug80 @ Jan 31 2013, 12:37) Well, ... Jan 31 2013, 15:08


bug80 QUOTE (2Bdecided @ Jan 31 2013, 16:08) QU... Feb 1 2013, 13:51


cliveb QUOTE (bug80 @ Feb 1 2013, 12:51) Coldpla... Feb 1 2013, 15:41

cliveb QUOTE (bug80 @ Jan 31 2013, 12:37) BTW, I... Jan 31 2013, 18:23
db1989 QUOTE (cliveb @ Jan 31 2013, 10:16) I don... Feb 4 2013, 22:51

cliveb QUOTE (krabapple @ Feb 7 2013, 03:34) Wha... Feb 7 2013, 21:02

krabapple Sorry cliveb, I'd forgotten about the variance... Feb 8 2013, 21:05
bug80 QUOTE (2Bdecided @ Feb 1 2013, 15:12) Tal... Feb 1 2013, 14:32
mixminus1 Just because a waveform visibly clips doesn't ... Feb 1 2013, 18:20
bug80 I rescanned 'Champagne Supernova' with the... Feb 1 2013, 18:55
David Jay Glad people here found the Owen Morris interview o... Feb 3 2013, 16:03
2Bdecided QUOTE (David Jay @ Feb 3 2013, 15:03) Gla... Feb 4 2013, 14:39
bug80 QUOTE (2Bdecided @ Feb 4 2013, 14:39) QUO... Feb 4 2013, 15:09
David Jay QUOTE (2Bdecided @ Feb 4 2013, 14:39) Wow... Feb 8 2013, 14:05
LithosZA QUOTE It's good that a site like this exists, ... Feb 4 2013, 16:18
bug80 QUOTE (LithosZA @ Feb 4 2013, 16:18) QUOT... Feb 4 2013, 23:17
cliveb QUOTE (bug80 @ Feb 4 2013, 22:17) That ma... Feb 5 2013, 10:05
krabapple QUOTE (cliveb @ Feb 5 2013, 04:05) Limiti... Feb 7 2013, 04:38
Neuron If I find something not loud enough, I turn up the... Feb 4 2013, 22:22
2Bdecided QUOTE (Neuron @ Feb 4 2013, 21:22) If I f... Feb 5 2013, 17:02
Engelsstaub QUOTE (2Bdecided @ Feb 5 2013, 10:02) ...... Feb 6 2013, 01:24
LithosZA QUOTE That makes me curious: what kind of music do... Feb 5 2013, 12:21
Mach-X I think too much has been made of the whole 'l... Feb 6 2013, 10:41
Stone Free QUOTE (Mach-X @ Feb 6 2013, 10:41) I... Feb 6 2013, 15:33
Engelsstaub QUOTE (Mach-X @ Feb 6 2013, 03:41) .... Feb 6 2013, 16:46
krabapple QUOTE (Mach-X @ Feb 6 2013, 04:41) I... Feb 7 2013, 04:43
greynol FWIW, I believe later releases of Justice got the ... Feb 6 2013, 17:48
Porcus QUOTE (greynol @ Feb 6 2013, 17:48) FWIW,... Feb 6 2013, 18:29
greynol Clearly not the treatment I'm talking about, w... Feb 6 2013, 20:58
bug80 On a positive note, the new Nick Cave album did no... Feb 15 2013, 10:53![]() ![]() |
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