Scale the Summit's "Master" Fail, Ths is what we can expect now, I guess. |
Scale the Summit's "Master" Fail, Ths is what we can expect now, I guess. |
Feb 22 2013, 22:42
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I (thankfully) don't listen to this band but I have Prosthetic Records on my Facebook due to a few others on their roster that I appreciate.
Here's a screenshot of what these dumbasses submitted to the label as their "master." Is anyone else shocked that any record company would accept this as normal? ![]() ...I guess we can expect this sort of "professionalism" from the recording industry these days. -------------------- The Loudness War is over. Now it's a hopeless occupation.
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Feb 22 2013, 23:26
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@ greynol: You don't have to guess, greynol. I can tell your right now that I'm not a musician. So?
I'm making the assumption that the "master" is a 16/44.1 CD-R and that this is going to be used to press CDs and LPs. What assumption should I have made when a record company says they got the new "masters" and the CD-R is even dated from a few days ago? Edit: I'm not at all understanding what this has to do with Rick Rubin. FWIW Prosthetic said later that they would never use Redbook for pressing. I don't think they though I was being assumptive based on the info they provided. @xnor: what's on the disc can hardly be more than Redbook. That's the issue. It's a CD. How many uncompressed WAV files can you fit on such a "master?" This post has been edited by Engelsstaub: Feb 22 2013, 23:27 -------------------- The Loudness War is over. Now it's a hopeless occupation.
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Feb 24 2013, 02:49
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Why would you assume it's necessarily 44.1 ? If they are .WAV or .FLAC files they could be anything as long as it fits on the disc. I often use CDs or DVDs or even BluRay discs as 'data carriers'. Would you have had a problem if they submitted a flash drive? After all, a file is a file and what you choose to put in it is totally up to you. Now if they're MP3s, well......
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Engelsstaub Scale the Summit's "Master" Fail Feb 22 2013, 22:42
greynol It's what's on the disc that matters, and ... Feb 22 2013, 23:12
xnor Nobody knows what's on the disc but the record... Feb 22 2013, 23:20
DVDdoug I'm not sure if there's anything wrong wit... Feb 22 2013, 23:22

greynol QUOTE (Glenn Gundlach @ Feb 23 2013, 17:4... Feb 24 2013, 17:12
greynol QUOTE (Engelsstaub @ Feb 22 2013, 14:26) ... Feb 27 2013, 09:05
greynol I think you're going to have a very hard time ... Feb 22 2013, 23:31
botface It's a long time since I was involved in the m... Feb 24 2013, 13:15
Arnold B. Krueger QUOTE (botface @ Feb 24 2013, 07:15) It... Feb 24 2013, 14:00
Engelsstaub Yeah, I'm not trying to play that "16 bit... Feb 22 2013, 23:46
db1989 QUOTE (Engelsstaub @ Feb 22 2013, 22:46) ... Feb 22 2013, 23:59
2Bdecided QUOTE (db1989 @ Feb 22 2013, 22:59) If yo... Feb 25 2013, 12:44
carpman Do record companies expect 16 bit masters?
45 min... Feb 22 2013, 23:47
Engelsstaub QUOTE (carpman @ Feb 22 2013, 16:47) Do r... Feb 22 2013, 23:53
greynol QUOTE (Engelsstaub @ Feb 22 2013, 14:53) ... Feb 23 2013, 00:09
carpman I just asked a question (and not directed at you).... Feb 22 2013, 23:59
greynol It's a master, FFS. At some point something w... Feb 23 2013, 00:02
xnor Audio CDs are 44.1/16, why would you give the reco... Feb 23 2013, 00:27
Engelsstaub QUOTE (db1989 @ Feb 22 2013, 16:59) ...Ot... Feb 23 2013, 00:54
xnor QUOTE (Engelsstaub @ Feb 23 2013, 00:54) ... Feb 23 2013, 01:05

greynol QUOTE iTunes
Let's not even go there or I migh... Feb 23 2013, 01:13
greynol QUOTE (Engelsstaub @ Feb 22 2013, 15:54) ... Feb 23 2013, 01:05
Wombat To me Master simply means final means ready for pr... Feb 23 2013, 00:58
Engelsstaub My belief is this:
A Redbook CD is completely fin... Feb 23 2013, 01:22
greynol QUOTE (Engelsstaub @ Feb 22 2013, 16:22) ... Feb 23 2013, 01:45
Arnold B. Krueger QUOTE (Engelsstaub @ Feb 22 2013, 19:22) ... Feb 23 2013, 22:18
GeSomeone QUOTE (Engelsstaub @ Feb 23 2013, 01:22) ... Feb 25 2013, 01:09
Engelsstaub QUOTE (GeSomeone @ Feb 24 2013, 18:09) QU... Feb 25 2013, 01:19
Arnold B. Krueger QUOTE (Engelsstaub @ Feb 24 2013, 19:19) ... Feb 25 2013, 13:42
DVDdoug QUOTE ...but seriously: if my cart is specced to d... Feb 23 2013, 02:07
Engelsstaub @ greynol in general: Welp, it remains that Apple ... Feb 23 2013, 02:30
Porcus Hm. Is the issue here that a CD – possibly an audi... Feb 23 2013, 02:33
greynol QUOTE (Porcus @ Feb 22 2013, 17:33) What ... Feb 23 2013, 02:51
Porcus QUOTE (greynol @ Feb 23 2013, 02:51) It... Feb 23 2013, 03:42
greynol QUOTE (Engelsstaub @ Feb 22 2013, 17:30) ... Feb 23 2013, 02:37
Engelsstaub @ Porcus: That's the stated issue, yes.
Ther... Feb 23 2013, 02:39
Engelsstaub ...and...I'm done.
Thanks. Feb 23 2013, 02:52
greynol 27 responses in a little over four hours, not too ... Feb 23 2013, 03:33
saratoga I really don't see what the big deal is. If i... Feb 23 2013, 23:47
Engelsstaub QUOTE (Arnold B. Krueger @ Feb 23 2013, 15... Feb 24 2013, 02:37
Arnold B. Krueger QUOTE (Engelsstaub @ Feb 23 2013, 20:37) ... Feb 24 2013, 13:53
S3NT13NT_GL1TCH If it contains a disc image or some other kind of ... Feb 24 2013, 18:47
greynol While I may be stating the obvious, burning and su... Feb 24 2013, 20:40
Engelsstaub QUOTE (greynol @ Feb 24 2013, 13:40) ...T... Feb 24 2013, 22:51

greynol Yes, that's different.
I don't think I... Feb 24 2013, 23:33
Porcus QUOTE (greynol @ Feb 24 2013, 20:40) AFAI... Feb 26 2013, 23:48
Engelsstaub QUOTE (Porcus @ Feb 26 2013, 16:48) QUOTE... Feb 27 2013, 03:44
greynol QUOTE (Engelsstaub @ Feb 26 2013, 18:44) ... Feb 27 2013, 04:04
Engelsstaub QUOTE (greynol @ Feb 26 2013, 21:04) QUOT... Feb 27 2013, 04:48
Engelsstaub QUOTE (Arnold B. Krueger @ Feb 24 2013, 06... Feb 24 2013, 22:40
Arnold B. Krueger QUOTE (Engelsstaub @ Feb 24 2013, 16:40) ... Feb 25 2013, 00:28
greynol You might want to check some of your recent upload... Feb 25 2013, 01:22
Engelsstaub QUOTE (greynol @ Feb 24 2013, 18:22) You ... Feb 25 2013, 01:36
saratoga QUOTE (Engelsstaub @ Feb 24 2013, 19:36) ... Feb 25 2013, 01:40

greynol QUOTE (saratoga @ Feb 24 2013, 16:40) Giv... Feb 25 2013, 01:57

saratoga QUOTE (greynol @ Feb 24 2013, 19:57) QUOT... Feb 25 2013, 02:59

Arnold B. Krueger QUOTE (saratoga @ Feb 24 2013, 20:59) QUO... Feb 25 2013, 14:07
greynol QUOTE (Engelsstaub @ Feb 24 2013, 16:36) ... Feb 25 2013, 01:52
Engelsstaub QUOTE (greynol @ Feb 24 2013, 18:52) ...
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greynol QUOTE (Engelsstaub @ Feb 24 2013, 17:46) ... Feb 25 2013, 04:24
Engelsstaub ...this is all above my pay-grade
I couldn... Feb 25 2013, 03:06
almostmitch but I like Scale The Summit.. Feb 25 2013, 16:28
Engelsstaub QUOTE (Arnold B. Krueger @ Feb 25 2013, 06... Feb 26 2013, 04:00
Arnold B. Krueger QUOTE (Engelsstaub @ Feb 25 2013, 22:00) ... Feb 26 2013, 13:13

Engelsstaub QUOTE (Arnold B. Krueger @ Feb 26 2013, 06... Feb 26 2013, 23:43

Arnold B. Krueger QUOTE (Engelsstaub @ Feb 26 2013, 17:43) ... Feb 27 2013, 16:43
Arnold B. Krueger QUOTE (Engelsstaub @ Feb 25 2013, 22:00) ... Feb 27 2013, 16:22
Engelsstaub QUOTE (Arnold B. Krueger @ Feb 27 2013, 09... Feb 27 2013, 23:06
Engelsstaub QUOTE (2Bdecided @ Feb 25 2013, 05:44) ..... Feb 26 2013, 04:21
2Bdecided QUOTE (Engelsstaub @ Feb 26 2013, 03:21) ... Feb 26 2013, 10:55
2Bdecided QUOTE (Engelsstaub @ Feb 26 2013, 03:21) ... Feb 27 2013, 11:15
Kees de Visser Emil Berliner Studios has re-introduced vinyl mast... Feb 27 2013, 11:38
probedb QUOTE (2Bdecided @ Feb 27 2013, 10:15) Th... Feb 27 2013, 11:55
greynol Reminds me of a boss I had, VP of Marketing and In... Feb 26 2013, 06:31
2Bdecided These samples...
http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/foru... Feb 26 2013, 15:37
greynol FWIW, I just updated this post with an example of ... Feb 26 2013, 21:41
greynol Yawn. Feb 26 2013, 23:50
LithosZA Personally I don't care if anything was source... Feb 27 2013, 06:18
Engelsstaub QUOTE (LithosZA @ Feb 26 2013, 23:18) Per... Feb 27 2013, 08:14
noiselab QUOTE (Engelsstaub @ Feb 26 2013, 23:14) ... Feb 27 2013, 13:06
Engelsstaub QUOTE (noiselab @ Feb 27 2013, 06:06) ...... Feb 27 2013, 13:26
db1989 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Montgomery
The ... Feb 27 2013, 13:59
Engelsstaub QUOTE (db1989 @ Feb 27 2013, 06:59) http:... Feb 27 2013, 14:09
greynol @OP:
Sigh.
My comment that the record industry h... Feb 27 2013, 06:25
Engelsstaub QUOTE (greynol @ Feb 26 2013, 23:25) Sigh... Feb 27 2013, 07:35
greynol Reading comprehension escapes you. Feb 27 2013, 08:08
Engelsstaub QUOTE (greynol @ Feb 27 2013, 01:08) Read... Feb 27 2013, 08:16
greynol Somehow as a moderator I'm not allowed to chal... Feb 27 2013, 08:46
Engelsstaub QUOTE (greynol @ Feb 27 2013, 01:46) Some... Feb 27 2013, 09:46
krabapple QUOTE (Engelsstaub @ Feb 27 2013, 03:46) ... Feb 27 2013, 20:18
greynol You're sure pinning a lot on a sample of only ... Feb 27 2013, 10:42
Engelsstaub QUOTE (greynol @ Feb 27 2013, 03:42) ...
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noiselab To the first - I'm not really fussed about cre... Feb 27 2013, 14:24
Engelsstaub QUOTE (noiselab @ Feb 27 2013, 07:24) ...... Feb 27 2013, 14:58
2Bdecided The reasons for using more than 16-bits during pro... Feb 27 2013, 15:21
Arnold B. Krueger QUOTE (2Bdecided @ Feb 27 2013, 09:21) Th... Feb 27 2013, 16:27
krabapple QUOTE (2Bdecided @ Feb 27 2013, 09:21) Th... Feb 27 2013, 20:21
frozenspeed Who cares what the vessel looks like, in this case... Feb 27 2013, 16:11![]() ![]() |
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