Scale the Summit's "Master" Fail, Ths is what we can expect now, I guess. |
Scale the Summit's "Master" Fail, Ths is what we can expect now, I guess. |
Feb 22 2013, 22:42
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I (thankfully) don't listen to this band but I have Prosthetic Records on my Facebook due to a few others on their roster that I appreciate.
Here's a screenshot of what these dumbasses submitted to the label as their "master." Is anyone else shocked that any record company would accept this as normal? ![]() ...I guess we can expect this sort of "professionalism" from the recording industry these days. -------------------- The Loudness War is over. Now it's a hopeless occupation.
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Feb 27 2013, 06:25
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@OP:
Sigh. My comment that the record industry has some people who are even more kooky than you appear to be is hardly unfounded. But to misconstrue this as meaning nothing offered up in this thread by people in the business is nothing short of laughable, and I mean of the snorting variety. So I'll ask you again, plainly, who said a response from a professional at a record company was not acceptable? You've rattled off on this more than once and now it's time for you to get called out on it. What will come next from you, that it was said but magically edited away as if it never happened? Yes, it's a great conspiracy. Until you can demonstrate the audible harm of creating vinyl from redbook, your entire premise is essentially based on nothing. Records may or may not have been pressed from redbook, even redbook from audio cd-r. Aside from your hollow belief that it shouldn't be this way, please explain why anyone interested in audible sound quality should care. This post has been edited by greynol: Feb 27 2013, 07:54
Reason for edit: Added "@OP:". Feel free to pretend I said or didn't say all sorts of other stuff for whatever may or may not be convenient for your narrative.
-------------------- Everything sounds the same until it is proven otherwise.
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Feb 27 2013, 07:35
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Sigh. My comment that the record industry has some people who are even more kooky than you appear to be is hardly unfounded. But to misconstrue this as meaning nothing offered up in this thread by people in the business is nothing short of laughable, and I mean of the snorting variety. So I'll ask you again, plainly, who said a response from a professional at a record company was not acceptable? You've rattled off on this more than once and now it's time for you to get called out on it. What will come next from you, that it was said but magically edited away as if it never happened? Yes, it's a great conspiracy. Until you can demonstrate the audible harm of creating vinyl from redbook, your entire premise is essentially based on nothing. Records may or may not have been pressed from redbook, even redbook from audio cd-r. Aside from your hollow belief that it shouldn't be this way, please explain why anyone interested in audible sound quality should care. Seriously greynol: I think it's admin intervention-time or something. Get a different mod in here because as I already amply demonstrated, you absolutely reek of an irrationally one-sided bias and confrontational attitude that defies the definition of moderator. What's "laughable" is that you proclaimed that I was "making shit up" and I demonstrated that I was not and now you're playing more games. Me: (Speaking of sweeping BS statements you refuse to moderate) That's acceptable, but a response from a a professional at a record company is not You: In the same post?!? Now I know you're just making shit up. Me quoting you from the same post: "AFAIC, opinions about what constitutes professionalism from a non-professional should be dismissed...if I only had a nickel for every person in the record business who didn't understand digital audio as well as the average HA contributor... " ...very plain who's full of shit before you made me quote it two or three times. But hey: my times of no value either Yeah, you can keep playing it like this wasn't your cheap-assed way of trying to discredit an actual quote from an actual insider in the business because it's the only one in the entire thread. Nobody else has crap except for "This happens all the time and BTW vinyl sucks anyway!" IS THIS ACCEPTABLE TO YOU? You and Arny here are backing it up as truth. Demonstrate or go home. I do not have to explain to you why you should care about whether LPs are cut from CD-Rs or not. If you don't care than f___ off and let me speak to anyone that does. Your incessant need to butt in and bully regular posters, through typical snark and condescension, on topics in which you admit you lack interest is ridiculous. ALL of it. ...especially in light of the fact that you can't even moderate the most obvious BS statements because, even though they're ridiculously over-the-top and untrue, they agree with your own prejudices. You've made it perfectly clear to me and everyone else here in the past few years that you don't like vinyl. Cool. I even accept that yours and Arny's are good reasons not to like it. What's not cool is that you're such a zealot that you feel this need to keep harassing people about a medium you despise even after you've very plainly shown yourself to be full of ten times the very "shit" you accuse someone else (not even a GD moderator) being ful of. As to whether I should demonstrate whether there is audible harm creating vinyl from CD: IRRELEVANT. There may be no harm in it but I, and the one professional I've spoken to thus far in the recording industry, would like it done from a better source since it's more than feasible. Now go ahead and pick at the word "better" instead of keeping this on my topic (because Lord Greynol has license to shit in others' threads if he doesn't like the subject matter.) Why don't you go ahead and demonstrate it since you're the one hung up on it? I just wanted to know what the norm is...but hey: tell me what I can talk about. Better yet, have a conversation with yourself and I'll just read. -------------------- The Loudness War is over. Now it's a hopeless occupation.
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Engelsstaub Scale the Summit's "Master" Fail Feb 22 2013, 22:42
greynol It's what's on the disc that matters, and ... Feb 22 2013, 23:12
xnor Nobody knows what's on the disc but the record... Feb 22 2013, 23:20
DVDdoug I'm not sure if there's anything wrong wit... Feb 22 2013, 23:22
Engelsstaub @ greynol: You don't have to guess, greynol. I... Feb 22 2013, 23:26
Glenn Gundlach Why would you assume it's necessarily 44.1 ? I... Feb 24 2013, 02:49

greynol QUOTE (Glenn Gundlach @ Feb 23 2013, 17:4... Feb 24 2013, 17:12
greynol QUOTE (Engelsstaub @ Feb 22 2013, 14:26) ... Feb 27 2013, 09:05
greynol I think you're going to have a very hard time ... Feb 22 2013, 23:31
botface It's a long time since I was involved in the m... Feb 24 2013, 13:15
Arnold B. Krueger QUOTE (botface @ Feb 24 2013, 07:15) It... Feb 24 2013, 14:00
Engelsstaub Yeah, I'm not trying to play that "16 bit... Feb 22 2013, 23:46
db1989 QUOTE (Engelsstaub @ Feb 22 2013, 22:46) ... Feb 22 2013, 23:59
2Bdecided QUOTE (db1989 @ Feb 22 2013, 22:59) If yo... Feb 25 2013, 12:44
carpman Do record companies expect 16 bit masters?
45 min... Feb 22 2013, 23:47
Engelsstaub QUOTE (carpman @ Feb 22 2013, 16:47) Do r... Feb 22 2013, 23:53
greynol QUOTE (Engelsstaub @ Feb 22 2013, 14:53) ... Feb 23 2013, 00:09
carpman I just asked a question (and not directed at you).... Feb 22 2013, 23:59
greynol It's a master, FFS. At some point something w... Feb 23 2013, 00:02
xnor Audio CDs are 44.1/16, why would you give the reco... Feb 23 2013, 00:27
Engelsstaub QUOTE (db1989 @ Feb 22 2013, 16:59) ...Ot... Feb 23 2013, 00:54
xnor QUOTE (Engelsstaub @ Feb 23 2013, 00:54) ... Feb 23 2013, 01:05

greynol QUOTE iTunes
Let's not even go there or I migh... Feb 23 2013, 01:13
greynol QUOTE (Engelsstaub @ Feb 22 2013, 15:54) ... Feb 23 2013, 01:05
Wombat To me Master simply means final means ready for pr... Feb 23 2013, 00:58
Engelsstaub My belief is this:
A Redbook CD is completely fin... Feb 23 2013, 01:22
greynol QUOTE (Engelsstaub @ Feb 22 2013, 16:22) ... Feb 23 2013, 01:45
Arnold B. Krueger QUOTE (Engelsstaub @ Feb 22 2013, 19:22) ... Feb 23 2013, 22:18
GeSomeone QUOTE (Engelsstaub @ Feb 23 2013, 01:22) ... Feb 25 2013, 01:09
Engelsstaub QUOTE (GeSomeone @ Feb 24 2013, 18:09) QU... Feb 25 2013, 01:19
Arnold B. Krueger QUOTE (Engelsstaub @ Feb 24 2013, 19:19) ... Feb 25 2013, 13:42
DVDdoug QUOTE ...but seriously: if my cart is specced to d... Feb 23 2013, 02:07
Engelsstaub @ greynol in general: Welp, it remains that Apple ... Feb 23 2013, 02:30
Porcus Hm. Is the issue here that a CD – possibly an audi... Feb 23 2013, 02:33
greynol QUOTE (Porcus @ Feb 22 2013, 17:33) What ... Feb 23 2013, 02:51
Porcus QUOTE (greynol @ Feb 23 2013, 02:51) It... Feb 23 2013, 03:42
greynol QUOTE (Engelsstaub @ Feb 22 2013, 17:30) ... Feb 23 2013, 02:37
Engelsstaub @ Porcus: That's the stated issue, yes.
Ther... Feb 23 2013, 02:39
Engelsstaub ...and...I'm done.
Thanks. Feb 23 2013, 02:52
greynol 27 responses in a little over four hours, not too ... Feb 23 2013, 03:33
saratoga I really don't see what the big deal is. If i... Feb 23 2013, 23:47
Engelsstaub QUOTE (Arnold B. Krueger @ Feb 23 2013, 15... Feb 24 2013, 02:37
Arnold B. Krueger QUOTE (Engelsstaub @ Feb 23 2013, 20:37) ... Feb 24 2013, 13:53
S3NT13NT_GL1TCH If it contains a disc image or some other kind of ... Feb 24 2013, 18:47
greynol While I may be stating the obvious, burning and su... Feb 24 2013, 20:40
Engelsstaub QUOTE (greynol @ Feb 24 2013, 13:40) ...T... Feb 24 2013, 22:51

greynol Yes, that's different.
I don't think I... Feb 24 2013, 23:33
Porcus QUOTE (greynol @ Feb 24 2013, 20:40) AFAI... Feb 26 2013, 23:48
Engelsstaub QUOTE (Porcus @ Feb 26 2013, 16:48) QUOTE... Feb 27 2013, 03:44
greynol QUOTE (Engelsstaub @ Feb 26 2013, 18:44) ... Feb 27 2013, 04:04
Engelsstaub QUOTE (greynol @ Feb 26 2013, 21:04) QUOT... Feb 27 2013, 04:48
Engelsstaub QUOTE (Arnold B. Krueger @ Feb 24 2013, 06... Feb 24 2013, 22:40
Arnold B. Krueger QUOTE (Engelsstaub @ Feb 24 2013, 16:40) ... Feb 25 2013, 00:28
greynol You might want to check some of your recent upload... Feb 25 2013, 01:22
Engelsstaub QUOTE (greynol @ Feb 24 2013, 18:22) You ... Feb 25 2013, 01:36
saratoga QUOTE (Engelsstaub @ Feb 24 2013, 19:36) ... Feb 25 2013, 01:40

greynol QUOTE (saratoga @ Feb 24 2013, 16:40) Giv... Feb 25 2013, 01:57

saratoga QUOTE (greynol @ Feb 24 2013, 19:57) QUOT... Feb 25 2013, 02:59

Arnold B. Krueger QUOTE (saratoga @ Feb 24 2013, 20:59) QUO... Feb 25 2013, 14:07
greynol QUOTE (Engelsstaub @ Feb 24 2013, 16:36) ... Feb 25 2013, 01:52
Engelsstaub QUOTE (greynol @ Feb 24 2013, 18:52) ...
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greynol QUOTE (Engelsstaub @ Feb 24 2013, 17:46) ... Feb 25 2013, 04:24
Engelsstaub ...this is all above my pay-grade
I couldn... Feb 25 2013, 03:06
almostmitch but I like Scale The Summit.. Feb 25 2013, 16:28
Engelsstaub QUOTE (Arnold B. Krueger @ Feb 25 2013, 06... Feb 26 2013, 04:00
Arnold B. Krueger QUOTE (Engelsstaub @ Feb 25 2013, 22:00) ... Feb 26 2013, 13:13

Engelsstaub QUOTE (Arnold B. Krueger @ Feb 26 2013, 06... Feb 26 2013, 23:43

Arnold B. Krueger QUOTE (Engelsstaub @ Feb 26 2013, 17:43) ... Feb 27 2013, 16:43
Arnold B. Krueger QUOTE (Engelsstaub @ Feb 25 2013, 22:00) ... Feb 27 2013, 16:22
Engelsstaub QUOTE (Arnold B. Krueger @ Feb 27 2013, 09... Feb 27 2013, 23:06
Engelsstaub QUOTE (2Bdecided @ Feb 25 2013, 05:44) ..... Feb 26 2013, 04:21
2Bdecided QUOTE (Engelsstaub @ Feb 26 2013, 03:21) ... Feb 26 2013, 10:55
2Bdecided QUOTE (Engelsstaub @ Feb 26 2013, 03:21) ... Feb 27 2013, 11:15
Kees de Visser Emil Berliner Studios has re-introduced vinyl mast... Feb 27 2013, 11:38
probedb QUOTE (2Bdecided @ Feb 27 2013, 10:15) Th... Feb 27 2013, 11:55
greynol Reminds me of a boss I had, VP of Marketing and In... Feb 26 2013, 06:31
2Bdecided These samples...
http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/foru... Feb 26 2013, 15:37
greynol FWIW, I just updated this post with an example of ... Feb 26 2013, 21:41
greynol Yawn. Feb 26 2013, 23:50
LithosZA Personally I don't care if anything was source... Feb 27 2013, 06:18
Engelsstaub QUOTE (LithosZA @ Feb 26 2013, 23:18) Per... Feb 27 2013, 08:14
noiselab QUOTE (Engelsstaub @ Feb 26 2013, 23:14) ... Feb 27 2013, 13:06
Engelsstaub QUOTE (noiselab @ Feb 27 2013, 06:06) ...... Feb 27 2013, 13:26
db1989 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Montgomery
The ... Feb 27 2013, 13:59
Engelsstaub QUOTE (db1989 @ Feb 27 2013, 06:59) http:... Feb 27 2013, 14:09
greynol Reading comprehension escapes you. Feb 27 2013, 08:08
Engelsstaub QUOTE (greynol @ Feb 27 2013, 01:08) Read... Feb 27 2013, 08:16
greynol Somehow as a moderator I'm not allowed to chal... Feb 27 2013, 08:46
Engelsstaub QUOTE (greynol @ Feb 27 2013, 01:46) Some... Feb 27 2013, 09:46
krabapple QUOTE (Engelsstaub @ Feb 27 2013, 03:46) ... Feb 27 2013, 20:18
greynol You're sure pinning a lot on a sample of only ... Feb 27 2013, 10:42
Engelsstaub QUOTE (greynol @ Feb 27 2013, 03:42) ...
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noiselab To the first - I'm not really fussed about cre... Feb 27 2013, 14:24
Engelsstaub QUOTE (noiselab @ Feb 27 2013, 07:24) ...... Feb 27 2013, 14:58
2Bdecided The reasons for using more than 16-bits during pro... Feb 27 2013, 15:21
Arnold B. Krueger QUOTE (2Bdecided @ Feb 27 2013, 09:21) Th... Feb 27 2013, 16:27
krabapple QUOTE (2Bdecided @ Feb 27 2013, 09:21) Th... Feb 27 2013, 20:21
frozenspeed Who cares what the vessel looks like, in this case... Feb 27 2013, 16:11![]() ![]() |
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