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Golovko
My problem is after encoding to mp3, certain songs have a specific jitter/artifact (I do not know the correct term), it has a slight warble to it. If I can I will upload some samples to show what I mean. Of the top of my head, some tracks from the Kikujiro OST, which are all mostly piano tracks and a bass guitar solo/instrumental from Victor Wooten. It seems it happens on singles notes mostly, but I also have some examples from more "popular music".

I have only been encoding in mostly two formats, the 190-220 vbr range, and using --alt-preset insane (320 for archiving some of my CD's).

I have listened to the original waves to make sure it is not my CD drive, and I have tried different computers, with the same setup, EAC + Lame 3.90.3. Perhaps it could be EAC, but like I said, the source wave files don't have the problem. I noticed the problem with 3.93 also (which I had first downloaded unknowingly, switched to 3.90.3 after I started reading the forums here).

Has anyone run into something simliar to this, and if so, what can I do to fix it or at least minimize it, as it is pretty annoying.
RaWShadow
Have you tried encoding without joint stereo? i think the switch is -ms

Guess i was wrong smile.gif
fewtch
What are you listening with? If it's WinAMP, is the built in equalizer turned off? I've heard noticeable artifacts with that EQ on that just aren't there with it off.

Also, have you tried ABX'ing, to make sure you can really tell the difference and it isn't a placebo effect of some sort?
Golovko
fewtch:

Thanks. Problem fixed for the track I was working on. Went back and checked some other mp3's that I remembered having the same problem and they disappeared once I disabled Winamp EQ.

So, you are right Winamp EQ was causing the warbling. (I run Winamp 2). Can you recommend a player that would produce better output w/ an EQ function?
fewtch
QUOTE(Golovko @ Jul 1 2003 - 10:56 AM)
fewtch:

Thanks. Problem fixed for the track I was working on. Went back and checked some other mp3's that I remembered having the same problem and they disappeared once I disabled Winamp EQ.

So, you are right Winamp EQ was causing the warbling. (I run Winamp 2). Can you recommend a player that would produce better output w/ an EQ function?

Glad to hear that helped. There's an EQ plugin for WinAMP that doesn't have those problems (Shibatch Equalizer), but it only cuts (not boosts) and you may or may not like it. Check this site:

http://rarewares.hydrogenaudio.org/others.html

Shibatch Super Equalizer
sony666
not herad of foobar yet? smile.gif
fewtch
QUOTE(sony666 @ Jul 1 2003 - 11:00 AM)
not herad of foobar yet? smile.gif

Foobar has an EQ built in? I wasn't aware of it... but anyway I use Winamp 2.x and am happy enough with it (I don't like using EQ anymore, anyway).
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