hi there,
I want to mail some of my winamp playlist to a friend, but not as a m3u file. Is there a way to convert them into another format (e.g. nice looking html or someting)? I tried to open the playlists with the editor, thats looks kinda crap.
So does anybody knows a way (or an app) to do that?
thx

Hi Digga;
Open the playlist in WinAmp, then hit CTRL+ALT+G and it creates a playlist in html format.

(Its like the 4th button at the bottom of the playlist editor. Misc options.)

Dex

thx, that did the job.
I used winamp for years now, but never had a look at that option. would have taken yeeeaaars to figure that (pretty easy) step out, so thx again.
I'm kind of ashamed i didn't know that feature

Microsoft Excel can let you do whatever you want with a text file of this kind.
Open it in "fixed lenght", define your columns, set them all to "text". You can for example sort the list according to what you want.

thx for the tip, but that built in winamp solution is what I was looking for.
I find it quite nice: doesn't look too 'wanna-be-hip', but good enough
Whereas Exel is included in the Office-packet owned by Microshi... er, Mircosoft and cost money. *way-offtopic* (I'm not saying I don't got it though ) *way-offtopic*

One of the things that I always thought was odd about the html generator
in WinAmp is, it creates this nice looking playlist, but the items aren't "links".
In other words, it would be nice if you could open the "page" and then
click on a song to play it.

Dex

Why's that? For that purpose, you still got your original m3u-playlists...
Or am I wrong?

Never thought it that way. I guess they made it just for letting other people see what kind of stuff you have there, or so.. Kinda cool idea though .

Digga, it could be nice to see the playlist bigger and stuff.. You could also change the font or other things in that, to make it look cool.

Well, that's an argument, altough to make it bigger, there's still an option in the playlist window itself. But I guess that kind of stuff is just a matter of taste, especially to make it look cooler...

Yeah, well I wouldn't even use it myself, since I don't use Winamp at all. Some people might want to play with that kind of thing. Yes, I know the playlist window can be streched bigger, but that will hide the player's controls, if you make it full screen.

You're saying you don't use winamp? repeat: you do not use winamp? the allmighty winamp?!
So what are you using then, go ahead, put yourself in miscredit...

He probably uses a better player than winamp. Foobar2000

yeah, as far as I can tell, this forum in split in two main types:
people who use winamp, and thoose who use foobar2k.
I've grown up with good old winamp, and and don't see any disatvanteges in that player up till 2.81... (although I don't even know all it's features, see start-thread )
foobar seems to be a quite good, neat player/app.
altough it's a bit complicated, at least that's what I took out of some threads here.

What disadvantages are there after 2.81? Just curious, as I upgraded from 2.76 to 2.91 recently (mostly to get the updated plugins).

arrrgh, I've written a whole big post, then deleted it by mistake ...
well, my fault.
all right, no real disadvanteges I guess, just personal disliking...
I want my player to play only music-files, and not to play video or to brush my teeth...
and AFAIK up from winamp 2.90 there is video support.
the winamp 2.xx tree has been real stable for quite a time now, and got all I want.
the more stuff you add to an app, the more potential bugs there are (altough that isn't a real argument: if you don't try something new and experiment, there's no progress at all).
you said something about new plugins?
can you hear the difference, or is there a better compartibility?
otherwise at least I wouldnt update.

*edit* I just checked the version history in 2.81:
'Updated to PP's latest input and output plugins'
are there realy some improtant changes to winamp or the plugins after that (beside video-support related bugs)? *edit*

I don't hear any clear difference... but 2.91 doesn't seem to start up more slowly or anything either, and everything works about the same. I just don't use the video plugins, in fact I wasn't aware there were any (edit -- it seems I installed the lite version on top of the old one, which doesn't have the video stuff).

It might be worth it for the bug fixes, if nothing else... there's at least one security-related bug in earlier versions I think related to the built in browser (which BTW I don't use either, but better safe than sorry).

well, as I already stated in my post above *teacher-like-look*
new functions bring new bugs, and the 2.91 version is abugfix-release from 2.90.
and as I don't need video support, I'm gonna stick with winamp 2.81.
if you can't hear a difference either, why not go back to 2.81, untill theres something worth upgrading for?
you can of course stay with 2.91, no harm done, but I personaly wouldn't like the thought of me having 2.91.

Fair enough... if I run into any problems with 2.91 (as in annoying bugs) I'll probably go back... otherwise, I don't see any current need to. So far, it looks like 2.91 is just as stable as the other 2.xx releases (at least the lite version without the video junk).

I haven't heard any reports of "spying" or similar Internet snooping with v2.9x either... if you hear anything, I'd appreciate a PM so I can downgrade in that case.

Edit -- aha, here's a possible reason to upgrade to v2.9+: "Updated PCM equalizer with code from 4Front Technologies/George Yohng. Quality is a lot better" (anyone know anything more about this?)

well, to be honest, I don't think there are any serious bug in 2.91, even with video support...
but using 2.81, I get that well-known warm fuzzy feeling, that you get, when you do the right thing (even when it's nonsense in a objective view)
the light option is thing I didn't consider, that's a real replacement for 2.81... but as I got some wma files I like to play sometimes, not for me...

If you overwrite the lite version of 2.91 on top of 2.81 (same folder), the old wma plugin should still be there -- just don't change any file associations upon installing and everything should remain exactly the same.

Not trying to get you to upgrade btw, just thought I'd let you know...

Well, that would be interesting indeed, as I use the equalizer...
*hunger for more info about that*

Damn liar!!!
I bet you got a deal with winamp, where you get a few bucks if you trick someone in upgrading from safe 2.81 to extreeeeme bugy 2.91...

But the overwrite method sounds not to bad... I coudn't think of any harm coming that way. Might give that a try, thx

LOL... I've always been very resistant to upgrading WinAMP too. Basically I decided to do it after getting my M-Audiophile 24/96 card, because I was thinking the latest WaveOut plugin, etc. would be nice to have. Could have found the updated plugins separately, but then I thought "what the hell" and just installed the v2.91 lite.

This announcement brought to you by Nullsoft - AOL/Time Warner. Go AOL Broadband Today! (j/k)

I knew it!! always!!!! at him boys, let's finish him off! ... er, uhm... I mean, let's bombard him with bytes or something... er, yes, right.

you are pretty daring to UPGRADE winamp anyway...

all right, joke's dead (Ican already smell it)


did you had any exp. with winamp3???

No... I won't even touch that one. No joke there, I wouldn't touch it with a gun pointed at my head.

same as me, pretty buggy, quite a fiew features you don't need... no wonder they continued to do upgrade 2.xx after winamp came out.
but I must admit, some things do interest me in v3.
e.g., there's the new shuffle mode, that's conciderd to be much better in 3...
in my own exp., winamp 2 shows a quite a bad behaviour in shuffle, when repeat all is selected.

What player am I using? Well, XMPlay it is. I even made a new thread about it a while ago, and after some time got a reply from Canar saying: "Pike84, this is the best "Pimp-My-Favorite-Program" thread I've seen in quite a while. I mean that as a compliment. "

Check it out if you want to know more. XMPlay hasn't even gotten much crap on it there, considering it's not very well known here at Hydrogen Audio .

Oh, and it was about time to make me an aproppriate signature .

all right, now here's the spotlight just for you :
ten reasons why to use XMPlayer instead of good old Winamp...

Eh, I'm happy enough at the moment with Winamp v2.x. If I make any major changes, it will be to Foobar (which IMHO is coming along nicely, and probably will succeed someday in convincing me to switch -- resistance is probably futile ).

yepp, foobar2k seems to be not bad, but I overheard quite a lot of confusion about the options available and some general lack of good guide...
no need to change to foobar right now for me, gonna stick with winamp untill something overwhelming new happens.

Well, I'm not sure if I can come up with ten, and I also think Winamp (2.xx) is a really good player, but I can give you a couple:

-It's lightweight. Smaller in filesize (even smaller than Foobar2k, I heard), CPU and memory usage.
-Skinnable, with no restrictions for the player's form.
-Flawless mod playback with surround sound, ramping and interpolation settings.
-The author Ian Luck really listens to people at the forum, and usually adds requested features if possible.

There's a few. Other than that, XMPlay has pretty much everything a good player should have . Now, I'm not saying that other players suck or anything, but I like XMPlay best .

That doesn't sound too bad...
If winamp ever let's me down (which is unlikley to happen), that player goes to my list of potential followers... I like the surround feature, winamp only supports four speakers...

Hmm.. I think you didn't get it quite right there. You see, it's not any Dolby Surround 5.1 or anything, it's just a tweak of sound for mod formats like .XM, .IT and .MOD. Also, I thought it was more about your soundcard or the mother board, how many speakers you can include to your system.. I'm not an expert at these, though .

all right...
but AFAIK winamp only supports 4.1 sound. I've got an sb audigy card, wich supports 5.1 sound. all my friends who are running winamp and have an audigy (quite a few ) have the same 'problem'... I'm not an expert either, but I think you can't winamp make to put out sound greater than 4.1

Well, thought I'ld chime back in here, I also use WinAmp 2.81 for a couple reasons.
1. I have a huge skin database, which just makes the player more "fun", and . . .
2. Two particular DSP plug-ins: iZotopes Ozone, and OSS/3D, which is written
by George Yohng!

I know this will make some of the "accurate-audio" folks cringe. (BTW - no condescension intended there.) But the George Yohng plug-in has this sub-woofer simulator thats (once again) "fun" in some circumstances. Its kinda hard to describe, but it adds that subtle over-driven cone sound like you hear when some dayglo-purple Honda Civic drives by at 3am. (You know what I mean.)

Dex

(I'm still having some wierd Windows-interaction issues with XMPlay.)

Quote from the author of XMP, Ian Luck:



He also said just yesterday that the new version (2.8) will be available very soon. Might want to check that out.