First of all, thank you guys for reply to my last quesstion.
And I have another question about error concealment
in an AAC decoder.
What is the common method to deal with the packet
loss or transmittion error?
regards
encai
Ivan Dimkovic
Mar 12 2002, 07:06
Well - common method is.. muting
More complex methods are based on psychoacoustic "prediction" of the next frame - I think that Nokia has few papers regarding error concealment technology - check out the http://www.aes.org for more details.
I must say that EC tools are more or less trade secrets, and I doubt that someone would disclose them to you free of charge.
Frank Klemm
Mar 12 2002, 10:22
QUOTE
Originally posted by Ivan Dimkovic Well - common method is.. muting
More complex methods are based on psychoacoustic \"prediction\" of the next frame - I think that Nokia has few papers regarding error concealment technology - check out the http://www.aes.org for more details.
I must say that EC tools are more or less trade secrets, and I doubt that someone would disclose them to you free of charge.
There are much more complex error concealment technology, but
more useful than muting is to repeat the last block up to two times and then fade the signal.
More sophisticated method often introduce additional decoder delays.
encai
Mar 12 2002, 18:22
Ivan Dimkovic, Frank Klemm
Thank you very much for your reply. It seems that it takes
time & money & additional decoder delays for me to use
more complex error concealmenttechnology.
I will follow Frank's method.
And one more question:
what does the coef. mean? Any equation to calculate them?
BTW: Is the higher layer's or the decoder's duty to judge
which packet is loss?
encai
Mar 12 2002, 23:41
QUOTE
Originally posted by encai And one more question:
what does the coef. mean? Any equation to calculate them?
By "the coef.", I means the fading coef.
[1.0, 0.9166, 0.75, 0.5, 0.25, 0.0833, 0.0].
regards.
Frank Klemm
Mar 13 2002, 09:10
QUOTE
Originally posted by encai
By \"the coef.\", I means the fading coef. [1.0, 0.9166, 0.75, 0.5, 0.25, 0.0833, 0.0].
regards.
Multiply with 12.
Calculate differences.
encai
Mar 13 2002, 18:51
QUOTE
Originally posted by Frank Klemm
Multiply with 12.
Calculate differences.
I am really fresh on digital audio processing, and
sorry for keeping asking silly questions.
Any URL or paper explain why fade in such a way:
[12/12, 11/12, 9/12, 6/12, 3/12, 1/12, 0/12].
regards.
encai
Ivan Dimkovic
Mar 14 2002, 04:24
Choosing the fading coefficients is really matter of implementation, you might want to use shorter or loger falloff.
Frank only suggested one set of coefs, you might want to use different ones, for example, if your error environment has larger recovery times, etc..
More complicated EC methods use "beat detection" psychoacoustic model and according to that try to predict next frames before errors disappear.
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