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Andavari
The past two posts I've did I noticed that when clicking the button to complete the post it will just freeze/stall on screen, it will sit there for minutes (2mins was my limit) and not do anything. I clicked the stop button in Opera6, went to the portal page, and then back to where I posted a reply and it was there.
Dibrom
This is a problem on your side I think. I haven't been able to reproduce it with any other browser (and I don't have Opera installed on this pc I'm posting from), and nobody else has reported it either.
Volcano
I had the same problem earlier today, also using Opera 6. It happens every now and again, but it pretty much always works in a different browser. *shrugs* God knows why.
Dibrom
This must be a problem with Opera (which is not exactly the most stable/non-buggy browser.....).

Does it happen with the latest Opera 7.x?
Volcano
QUOTE(Dibrom @ Aug 17 2003, 09:55 PM)
This must be a problem with Opera [...]

Well yes, obviously. That's why I don't think it's worth further investigating, it happens very rarely and, as I said, with no other browser.

QUOTE
Does it happen with the latest Opera 7.x?

I'm not using that (sluggish GUI, and a few other glitches), so I can't comment.
picmixer
Does not happen with 7.X
guruboolez
QUOTE(Andavari @ Aug 17 2003, 03:29 PM)
The past two posts I've did I noticed that when clicking the button to complete the post it will just freeze/stall on screen, it will sit there for minutes (2mins was my limit) and not do anything. I clicked the stop button in Opera6, went to the portal page, and then back to where I posted a reply and it was there.

Same problem, with IE 6.0.2800 on XP-SP1, since yesterday.
Another problem, more annoying : can't open anymore a thread just for reading new posts only :
.../index.php?showtopic=12317&view=getnewpost doesn't work : blank page. I've this problem for two or three days. I removed all known cookies related to hydrogenaudio, logged out and logged in, but problem remain. Active topic and new post work like a charm, but I can't follow correctly the thread bt clicking on user posted image dedicated icon. Any idea ?
Andavari
QUOTE(Volcano @ Aug 17 2003, 02:07 PM)
QUOTE
Does it happen with the latest Opera 7.x?

I'm not using that (sluggish GUI, and a few other glitches), so I can't comment.

I second that opinion.
JohnV
QUOTE(guruboolez @ Aug 18 2003, 07:59 PM)
QUOTE(Andavari @ Aug 17 2003, 03:29 PM)
The past two posts I've did I noticed that when clicking the button to complete the post it will just freeze/stall on screen, it will sit there for minutes (2mins was my limit) and not do anything. I clicked the stop button in Opera6, went to the portal page, and then back to where I posted a reply and it was there.

Same problem, with IE 6.0.2800 on XP-SP1, since yesterday.
Another problem, more annoying : can't open anymore a thread just for reading new posts only :
.../index.php?showtopic=12317&view=getnewpost doesn't work : blank page. I've this problem for two or three days. I removed all known cookies related to hydrogenaudio, logged out and logged in, but problem remain. Active topic and new post work like a charm, but I can't follow correctly the thread bt clicking on user posted image dedicated icon. Any idea ?

Hmm.. works here.
Anybody else has this exact problem?
mobius
QUOTE(Andavari @ Aug 18 2003, 10:14 AM)
QUOTE(Volcano @ Aug 17 2003, 02:07 PM)
QUOTE
Does it happen with the latest Opera 7.x?

I'm not using that (sluggish GUI, and a few other glitches), so I can't comment.

I second that opinion.

I thought it was all in me head. smile.gif

No problem here with opera 6 as well. Could be a transient power freakout or something.
Dibrom
For the people that are seeing the stalling, what are your system specs? It might be possible that the client-side anti-spam script is causing this delay (it utilizes the DOM model + regex, so in theory it could be slow on less powerful machines).
Andavari
QUOTE(Dibrom @ Aug 20 2003, 02:02 AM)
For the people that are seeing the stalling, what are your system specs?

System:
OS: Win98
Chip: 400 Mhz PII w/ MMX
SysMem: 384 MB
VidMem: 8 MB
Updates: All the mumbo jumbo crappola from Windows update (minus DX 9x)

Internet:
Modem/Connection Speed: 56k
Firewall: KPF 2.1.5
Filtering: CookieCop 2.2
Browser: Opera 6.05 (the last good version in my opinion)
JavaScript: Disabled
Cookies: Enabled
Referrer: Disabled

(Edit: Added modem/connection speed.)
Volcano
Weird. It has been happening the last 3 or 4 times I posted (all day today).

All I see is a blank page - but since Opera wouldn't display the page source, I couldn't check whether it had actually loaded anything that might be causing issues.

Using Opera 6.06, Javascript enabled (Cookies as well obviously), 64K ISDN, Celeron 500 MHz, 384 MB RAM.

Edit: It also happened with this post. wink.gif One thing that might be of interest is that the adress bar displays "http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?", so this happens before the redirect to the thread display.
Andavari
QUOTE(Volcano @ Aug 21 2003, 03:51 PM)
One thing that might be of interest is that the adress bar displays "http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?", so this happens before the redirect to the thread display.

That's all I see now when submitting a post.

I'm wondering if the viruses that are "supposedly" slowing the web this week have anything to do with it, they are surely getting enough coverage on TV news channels.
jamieo
I get the same problems both here and at burnatonce.com so I think this is a problem with ipb 1.2. However, it only happens on my work pc so maybe this is to do with corporate firewall / redirecting etc...?

Jamie
Andavari
I'm wondering if referrer logging is disabled would that cause the address to get stuck on: http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?
LIF
Same problem here...Post freezes...
After some seconds I just hit the stop button(Win98SE, Opera 6.x), reload the thread and my post is showing fine.
LIF

Edit: Just happened again... huh.gif
Dibrom
The common thread here seems to be that people are using Opera 6. Given that this browser has many problems, and there are updated versions available, I'm not going to spend a lot of time looking into this.

One person already reported that it doesn't happen with Opera 7, so that might be worth consideration for those using Opera.
mobius
Okay. I'd also bet my money on opera 6 as the culprit. sad.gif The cause of the stumbling appears to be the getlastpost function in IPB.

http://as220.org/mobius/getlastpost.png

Notice how crappy the rendering is with netscape 4.6. Why this is the current corporate standard I'll never know.


mobius
Andavari
QUOTE(mobius @ Aug 26 2003, 03:57 PM)
Okay.  I'd also bet my money on opera 6 as the culprit.

I'd bet it is too, and no one around here will see me mindlessly praising the dead horse Opera 6.05 anymore, it's now dead and buried on my system.

I reluctantly downloaded and installed Opera 7.11 last night which is a vast improvement from the crap in the initial 7.0 release. Finally the 7.xx series is no longer a piece of dung in my eyes. Amazingly alot of websites that wouldn't fully load before using Opera 6.05 like Lavasoft's Ad-aware site http://www.lavasoft.de are now fully visible, hell even FTP downloading through the browser works now.
Daijoubu
It's because NS4 doesn't understand @import for style sheet
http://www.sitepointforums.com/showthread....threadid=112588 laugh.gif
jamieo
QUOTE(Dibrom @ Aug 25 2003, 05:27 PM)
The common thread here seems to be that people are using Opera 6.

But I'm using IE6...

Jamie
emtee
QUOTE(Andavari @ Aug 17 2003, 02:29 PM)
The past two posts I've did I noticed that when clicking the button to complete the post it will just freeze/stall on screen, it will sit there for minutes (2mins was my limit) and not do anything. I clicked the stop button in Opera6, went to the portal page, and then back to where I posted a reply and it was there.

I have the exact same problem, and i'm using IE 6 on XP (both IE6 and XP patched with the latest updates). I'm also receiving an error message. More details here

Also, despite all my efforts, mozilla is (still) unable to browse through the links with the file "show.php" in them.
JohnV
Try posting something to Invision test forum:
http://forums.invisionpower.com/index.php?showforum=15
and see if there's similar behaviour.
emtee
Done: http://forums.invisionpower.com/index.php?...ST&f=15&t=89454

No problems or freezes at all. Also, mozilla is able to follow any link and load every page.
jamieo
Although I thought I checked this before, changing the auto-redirect type has fixed the 'get new post' and related problems on my board - www.burnatonce.com/forums

Setting it to 'Refresh (Windows Savvy)' instantly reproduces the problem. Selecting anything else cures it. smile.gif

Jamie
Dibrom
QUOTE(jamieo @ Sep 1 2003, 08:49 AM)
Although I thought I checked this before, changing the auto-redirect type has fixed the 'get new post' and related problems on my board - www.burnatonce.com/forums

Setting it to 'Refresh (Windows Savvy)' instantly reproduces the problem.  Selecting anything else cures it.  smile.gif

Jamie

We have to set the redirect to 'Refresh' on our board for the 'get new post' stuff to work. Judging from other posts to the invisionboard forum, it seems that other people have had to do the same when using a similar webserver configuration as us.

I also think that the other problems are not necessarily related directly to this, and that some of the problems here are from users having their browsers configured incorrectly, or some sort of other system related problems, especially since some of them are non-reproduceable on systems I've tried using similar configurations (browsers).
Dibrom
QUOTE(emtee @ Aug 31 2003, 11:32 AM)
QUOTE(Andavari @ Aug 17 2003, 02:29 PM)
The past two posts I've did I noticed that when clicking the button to complete the post it will just freeze/stall on screen, it will sit there for minutes (2mins was my limit) and not do anything. I clicked the stop button in Opera6, went to the portal page, and then back to where I posted a reply and it was there.

I have the exact same problem, and i'm using IE 6 on XP (both IE6 and XP patched with the latest updates). I'm also receiving an error message. More details here

Also, despite all my efforts, mozilla is (still) unable to browse through the links with the file "show.php" in them.

I'm pretty sure these problems have to be an issue with your system configuration, or possibly with something weird that your ISP is doing.

Quite simply, neither JohnV or I (or I assume any other users) are getting these Javascript errors. If you're using the same browser we did (IE6) then you shouldn't be either unless:

1. Your javascript engine is broken/seriously outdated (not sure how this could be possible)
2. The javascript is not being transmitted correctly to you, and the corruption is causing the problem
3. Something on your system is modifying the javascript and causing the corruption

As for the redirects with show.php, Mozilla is simply able to work with these. Mozilla is my primary browser and I know for a fact that it's worked fine with these type of redirects for the past 6 months at least. Something on your side is simply not working.. whether it be your system in particular, or your ISP, or something else along those lines.

There's really nothing else I can tell you. The invisionboard forums probably work fine for you because:

1. They don't include the javascript stuff we do.
2. They don't use show.php

Although I can't really say for sure, I might be able to help you figure out what's going on if you can give me the specific error that IE reports for the javascript, and a dump of the HTTP headers from your problem browsing session. You can get the latter from the livehttpheaders plugin for mozilla off mozdev.org.
jamieo
QUOTE(Dibrom @ Sep 1 2003, 07:23 PM)
I also think that the other problems are not necessarily related directly to this, and that some of the problems here are from users having their browsers configured incorrectly, or some sort of other system related problems, especially since some of them are non-reproduceable on systems I've tried using similar configurations (browsers).

My work pc has had no changes made to it but these problems cropped up after ipb 1.2 was installed. The problems are exactly the same both here and at burnatonce.com except for when I change the redirect type in which case burnatonce.com works perfectly.

I think the problem may be to do with the network I'm on (corporate firewall etc.) not liking some recent changes in ipb 1.2 regarding the windows savvy refresh but if you don't want to look into that then that's up to you - I just thought I'd pass on the info. smile.gif

Jamie
Dibrom
QUOTE(jamieo @ Sep 1 2003, 12:41 PM)
I think the problem may be to do with the network I'm on (corporate firewall etc.) not liking some recent changes in ipb 1.2 regarding the windows savvy refresh but if you don't want to look into that then that's up to you - I just thought I'd pass on the info.  smile.gif

Jamie

I've already looked into it is what I'm saying. Location based (*nix style) redirects are the default for the board and do not work with our configuration (which, as I said, seems to be the case for others with the software config as us) -- we specifically had to switch to refresh based redirects to get all of the features of the forum software working.

The question is: why do these redirects work perfectly for us and not for you? I'd venture to guess that your mention of the corporate firewall being an issue is absolutely correct.

If you'd like to help pinpoint what exactly is happening here, I'd need a dump of the HTTP headers from your browsing session (just one forum action that fails is enough). If you're using IE6, I don't know of an easy way to get this information. There are probably software packages out there that would make this possible, but you'd have to find them on your own. You could perhaps try using Mozilla/Mozilla Firebird and seeing if the same problems happen, and if they do, try giving the livehttpheaders package a go that I mentioned earlier in the thread.
JohnV
Referring to this and other reports of worms and viruses interfering with the net connections and browsing, I suggest everybody who was having problems scans his/her system with this:
http://housecall.antivirus.com/housecall/s.../start_corp.asp
It's Java based antivirus using Trend Pc-cilling antivirus signatures, so you won't have to install any specific software to use it. Just Java capable browser will do.
jamieo
Same errors occur on Mozilla 1.5 and Mozilla Firebird 0.6.1.

I have PM'd you with the livehttpheader's output...

Jamie
emtee
After updating to the latest version and adding www.hydrogenaudio.org to the trusted websites list in my ZoneAlarm Firewall, removing all kinds of protections for this domain, i can now use Mozilla to browse HA smile.gif
Since it is my default browser, i won't bother trying to fix the IE problem. However, i believe somehow ZoneAlarm finds this javascript malicious and blocks it, no matter what my Java Virtual Machine is (Sun or Microsoft).
For those who use IE6 and ZoneAlarm and are having similar problems, completely uninstalling ZoneAlarm probably fixes the IE problem.

Thank you for your patiente JohnV and Dibrom.
jamieo
QUOTE(jamieo @ Sep 2 2003, 09:31 AM)
I have PM'd you with the livehttpheader's output...

Well... I guess that was a waste of my morning then. rolleyes.gif

Jamie
Dibrom
QUOTE(jamieo @ Sep 4 2003, 03:56 PM)
QUOTE(jamieo @ Sep 2 2003, 09:31 AM)
I have PM'd you with the livehttpheader's output...

Well... I guess that was a waste of my morning then. rolleyes.gif

Jamie

What is this supposed to mean? Are you using ZoneAlarm?

Or are you simply annoyed that I haven't gotten back to you yet? If so, I can't believe how demanding and impatient some of the people around here can be.

Yes, I got your PM. Yes, thank you. No, I haven't had time to do anything about it yet.. I've been busy with school, work, and other real life stuff. I've barely had time to even check HA lately except to respond to, yet again, more problems...

I'll see if I can figure something out, but people, please try to realize that there is more to my life than Hydrogenaudio. I quite simply don't have time to cater to every single little complaint/issue/problem that someone throws my way... alright? It would be different if I were getting paid to do all of this, but I'm not. This is a project I maintain for strangers, in my free time, and simply out of my own good will.
jamieo
QUOTE(Dibrom @ Sep 4 2003, 11:30 PM)
Or are you simply annoyed that I haven't gotten back to you yet?  If so, I can't believe how demanding and impatient some of the people around here can be.

I'm not being demanding or impatient - I was helping you!

I've also been busy with my software, forum, an exam and 60hrs at my job this week but I still managed to check in on this thread every so often to see if you required more information - a simple reply saying you were busy would have been enough to have saved me some trouble. I'm sure you also find it annoying when people don't bother considering the time and effort you've spent helping them out.

Anyway, not being a regular member here I have no interest in whether the Hydrogen Audio forums work correctly or not, I was just being helpful. Good Luck!

Jamie
gwaihir
QUOTE
The past two posts I've did I noticed that when clicking the button to complete the post it will just freeze/stall on screen, it will sit there for minutes (2mins was my limit) and not do anything. I clicked the stop button in Opera6, went to the portal page, and then back to where I posted a reply and it was there.


The problem is with Opera. I had same trouble when I used Opera (v6.03). Today, I installed v7.21, and the problem is gone. So, perhaps, upgrading might resolve the issue.
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