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Moneo
Arjarag,

sorry for posting incorrect info.

It was a blunder on my side. For some reason, wma compression didn't work at all, and I didn't notice the incorrect extension (wav instead of wma) smile.gif

So what's your problem with EAC, then?

What features do you find to be missing there?
Agrajag
Thanks Scor. Very helpful info.

Moneo, mainly I was asking HERE if there was anything I was missing. I'm pretty happy with the core feature set of EAC though I believe the interface could be much better.

I also either don't get it or there is no way to save setups for multiple compression types. I can hit F11 and setup the one compression type I want to use but then if I change those settings for another type it appears I've lost the settings for the first and have to start over. I'd like to see an interface that supports setting up multiple compression solutions and then let me choose which one I want when it's time to convert the files.

I also have yet to find a way to create say, a WMA file from an existing wav file. It appears as if I have to first rip the file to WAV and THEN convert to WMA even if I already have the WAV handy. Granted, that a conversion process and EAC's main purpose is to make copies but I don't think it's asking much to also function as an intuitive converter-only when needed.
tigre
QUOTE(Agrajag @ Nov 3 2003, 04:12 PM)
I also either don't get it or there is no way to save setups for multiple compression types.

At the bottom of the interface there are buttons: "Load" "Save" "New" "Delete".
These can be used to create profiles.

QUOTE
I also have yet to find a way to create say, a WMA file from an existing wav file. It appears as if I have to first rip the file to WAV and THEN convert to WMA even if I already have the WAV handy. Granted, that a conversion process and EAC's main purpose is to make copies but I don't think it's asking much to also function as an intuitive converter-only when needed.

What happens if you have EAC configured to rip + encode to wma lossless and then go to Tools -> Compress WAVs ...? (I can't test this myself as I don't have newer versions of WMP/WMA installed.)
ScorLibran
QUOTE(Agrajag @ Nov 3 2003, 06:12 PM)
I also either don't get it or there is no way to save setups for multiple compression types. I can hit F11 and setup the one compression type I want to use but then if I change those settings for another type it appears I've lost the settings for the first and have to start over. I'd like to see an interface that supports setting up multiple compression solutions and then let me choose which one I want when it's time to convert the files.

I also have yet to find a way to create say, a WMA file from an existing wav file. It appears as if I have to first rip the file to WAV and THEN convert to WMA even if I already have the WAV handy. Granted, that a conversion process and EAC's main purpose is to make copies but I don't think it's asking much to also function as an intuitive converter-only when needed.

Tigre covered how to save/load profiles in EAC. (I didn't even know about the buttons at the bottom of the main interface window.) You can also select menu item EAC --> Profiles to accomplish the same thing (if you prefer menu navigation).

As for compressing existing WAV files, try menu item Tools --> Compress WAVs..., then select your WAV files from the directory in which they reside. EAC will use the same compression profile it would use after ripping.
caiman
do you want EAC to convert in different types of compressed audio one after the other or at the same time.

if you want to do it one after the other the profiles are a very good solution.

but if you want from one rip directly produce, lets say, one WMA9losless, a LAME APS fiel and for some reason a aac file, there is a tool (iŽll have a search at the forum) which does function as an "user defined encoder" in eac, but is an batch file (which you will have to configure seperatly) which will call different Commandline Encoders. So you will have 2 or three files output with a single "compression-call" from EAC.

edit: since iŽm not friendly with the search function here on HA, had to browse to find. but now...put in link for MAREO
edit 2: cosmetics ;-)
tigre
QUOTE(caiman @ Nov 4 2003, 01:20 AM)
but if you want from one rip directly produce, lets say, one WMA9losless, a LAME APS fiel and for some reason a aac file, there is a tool (iŽll have a search at the forum) which does function as an "user defined encoder" in eac, but is an batch file (which you will have to configure seperatly) which will call different Commandline Encoders. So you will have 2 or three files output with a single "compression-call" from EAC.

AFAIK there's no WMA9 lossless encoder .exe which would be necessary to be used with MAREO. Someone would have to write a tool like Qutibacoas for WMA9lossless.
rocketsauce
QUOTE
Also, you won't find plextools on Plextor's site


Actually, IIRC it seems like the version 2.07 that I downloaded from the Plextor America site did not require a previous installation:

http://www.plextor.com/english/support/sup...loads.html#soft

while the version 2.08 available on the Plextor Europe site does require a previous installation:

http://www.plextor.be/English/technical/do...ownld_util.html

I could be trippin' though.

Rob
caiman
si, me olvide wink.gif .

tigre is right. youŽll need a command line encoder version of WMA9 losless for that.

but maybe this is ?
JeanLuc
QUOTE(caiman @ Nov 4 2003, 01:32 PM)
si, me olvide wink.gif  .

tigre is right. youŽll need a command line encoder version of WMA9 losless for that.

but maybe this is ?

No, that is the MS Windows Media 9 Encoder setup program ... smile.gif
Agrajag
Rocket, PlexTools on the US site, using the link you posted, gives you an install that immediately fails if no previous version is found.

On EAC and compression choices/profiles, I'd much rather see an interface where, under the Compression menu item you get all the various types you've set up. Thus, I can decide, on-the-fly, what type I want to output to. The whole Profile thing is a bit non-intuitive. Just give me a screen where I can add and remove setups (fine, call them profiles <grin>) that will appear in the various places of the program where those choices are made. Thus I can then see:

Compress to...
WMA9 Lossless
FLAC
OGG
APE
MP3

And so on. It'd also be easy for EAC to then do what we're talking about (which isn't what I needed but it'd still be nice for those who have multiple platform needs) to just add a checkbox interface to support this.
mike74
Hi Agrajag,

I followed a link from my site statistics and found this thread. My name is Mike and I own and operate the site Agrajag mentioned. hometheatercomputer.net I am happy to see that we are still in mind for you.

ScorLibran,

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That looks like an interesting solution indeed, though still proprietary...and hence expensive for it's capabilities. When it can do what my Sony VAIO GRX670 can do as the center of my home theater, then I may consider it.


I am curious to know what you mean regarding proprietary.

There is little limit to the capability of this system. Embedded players are WMP9 and Winamp, however there are plugins available for Foobar and J. River Media Center. If none of these options suit you, then you have the ability to use the full library capabilities of our front end software, queue up you music or choose a pre-configured playlist and have that playlist passed to any software player of your choice.

The same goes for movie playback, whether it be DVD on disk, DVD ripped to the hard drive or a DivX, Xvid, WMV, or MPEG file. Everything is supported, if not by the embedded players, then by launching an external player. There are tools to automatically grab and create metadata information for your movies. We have a preMovie utility that can entertain guests before your movie starts by playing trivia slides, followed by trailers and Dolby/THX/DTS demos and even dimming the lights at times you specify. More about preMovie Manager It will work with any software player you like.

In addition we have PVR functionality provided by SnapStream and using the Hauppauge PVR-250.

You also have the ability to access a host of other features including RSS news feeds, web surfing. There is a picture viewer and slideshow feature built in. It will launch any program you wish from its main interface through a very simple setup process, meaning your games (PC, emulators, solitaire-if you wish), chat and video conferencing, anything you can imagine. You can even create a phone book if you wish so that if you want to order a pizza, you don't have to search for the menu or look in the phone book, just go to your contacts and look up the phone number (associate pictures of friends and family and have a picture phone book on your TV).

There is really little end to the capabilities of this system, and there is an upgraded version of the software on the way, which will be even more powerful, and provide freely to current customers upon its release. All of this is controlled through a remote control that uses RF for the PC and includes 5-in-1 universal IR with learning for your current A/V devices as well as X10 control for home automation.

I am sorry. I know that I have taken this thread far from its original topic, but I was just checking around at where my links are coming from and wanted to be sure that the information is understood. Thank you for your time in reading this, and I'd be happy to hear any comments or answer any questions.
sthayashi
QUOTE(Agrajag @ Nov 4 2003, 11:06 AM)
Rocket, PlexTools on the US site, using the link you posted, gives you an install that immediately fails if no previous version is found.

There is a solution posted in this thread

Edit: Oops, didn't know it was an illegal distro. I figured it was legal since it was posted on HA.
Jan S.
QUOTE(sthayashi @ Nov 4 2003, 07:11 PM)
QUOTE(Agrajag @ Nov 4 2003, 11:06 AM)
Rocket, PlexTools on the US site, using the link you posted, gives you an install that immediately fails if no previous version is found.

There is a solution posted in this thread

Thank you for bringing this thread with illegal Plextools distribution to our attention. It has now been removed.
tigre
QUOTE(Agrajag @ Nov 4 2003, 08:06 AM)
The whole Profile thing is a bit non-intuitive. Just give me a screen where I can add and remove setups (fine, call them profiles <grin>) that will appear in the various places of the program where those choices are made. Thus I can then see:

Compress to...
    WMA9 Lossless
    FLAC
    OGG
    APE
    MP3

And so on.

Maybe it's non-intuitive to set up but it's possible exactly as you describe:

[Edit]Image replaced by attatched file: eac.png. Crappy webspace I have mad.gif [/Edit]

If you want a lot of features/settings to choose from at some point handling suffers. That can't be avoided IMO.
rocketsauce
QUOTE
Rocket, PlexTools on the US site, using the link you posted, gives you an install that immediately fails if no previous version is found.


Hmmm, guess I was wrong. I just don't remember having a previous version installed when I installed that one, but I guess I must have.

Rob
Agrajag
Mike, HEY! Absolutely still considering your solution. It's my main choice. Just making sure I've done all my research. <grin>

Tigre, you posted an image but the link shows up broken. Obviously I'm interested in seeing what you did!

Rob, all it needs to have is a registry entry which often gets left behind even if you uninstall.
ScorLibran
[Erm...TOS#6, pls. Perhaps a new thread here?]

Regarding EAC interface design, AFAIK the developer of EAC does not frequent this site, but an e-mail to eac@exactaudiocopy.de would make your concerns heard.

I don't know how much current development Andre is doing on EAC, as there hasn't been a new (beta) release in a while, but these things would be good for him to know. If he gets enough requests for a change in the design of the configuration interface, maybe he'll get around to it someday. wink.gif
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