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Andavari
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Originally posted by outscape

hmmm... quite weird. mozilla 1.0 is working very well on my system. pages load a lot faster than with internet explorer, especially with webwasher enabled. of course, most pages will load slightly faster without webwasher, but i'm fairly happy with the browsing engine so far

Well I think it was a combo of problems on my end.
I decided to re-download the Moz 1.0 setup file. Re-downloading the setup file solved the slow down on my system, I don't know but maybe my install was corrupt.
cd-rw.org
Is anyone else unsatisfied how Moz handles file downloads? I have constant probs with at. It tries to download files at *.exe.htm, doesn't allow me to execute files directly or execute files after download...
Jospoortvliet
I dont like that either. I added a new filetype, nl. .pk3 for compressed files, to open with WinRAR. but now every zipfile has an extra .pk3 extention added...
and, you can pause, and even stop downloads, but not resume them from the download mannager, although you can go back to the original page where u downloaded them and resume from where u stopped. but thats not what I want, because sometimes I dont remember the link... and it's not there in the download manager, isnt it??
(well you can see it, but you have to type it over, because you can't select and copy it. quite stupid... - hmm, although there is no download manager at all in Internet Exploder smile.gif)
hehe
anywayz, Moz is a 1000 times faster than IE for me, so I wont go back to IE....
Case
I think your problems are fixed in 1.1 alpha. Atleast it doesn't add any extra to extensions.

And best of all this new alpha seems faster in rendering, I no longer get pause when scrolling up to HA logo on main page.
Jospoortvliet
tnx... I'll wait until a more stable version is out. but at least they noticed the problems, i see...
Continuum
2 questions about the lizard:

1. Has the loading time improved from 0.99 to 1.0? I'm using 0.99 at the moment and though sites are displayed very fast, the first start-up of the program is very slow (or is this just my problem?)

2. Is there a way, to open a link in a new window in the background, like in Opera (press shift+click)? I find this feature particulary handy with fora (-ums).
Benjamin Lebsanft
1. enable quick start
2. Ctrl+click
ssamadhi97
QUOTE
Originally posted by Continuum
2. Is there a way, to open a link in a new window in the background, like in Opera (press shift+click)? I find this feature particulary handy with fora (-ums).

sure. rmb down on link, move mouse up, release rmb.

of course you'll have to install mouse gestures for mozilla to use this feature (http://optimoz.mozdev.org), but honestly - which serious Opera user can live without mouse gestures? smile.gif
Continuum
Thanks for the quick answers.

QUOTE
1. enable quick start
2. Ctrl+click
ad 1: I thought that. So I have the choice between slowing down my Windows boot or the Mozilla start up...
ad 2: At least in 0.99 this opens the new window in front of the old one, not in the background, what I was looking for.

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sure. rmb down on link, move mouse up, release rmb.
of course you'll have to install mouse gestures for mozilla to use this feature (http://optimoz.mozdev.org), but honestly - which serious Opera user can live without mouse gestures?
Same here. The window is opened in a new tab, but the focus is changed.
ssamadhi97
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Originally posted by Continuum
Same here. The window is opened in a new tab, but the focus is changed.

hehe, gestures rule biggrin.gif

in moz, go to Edit -> Preferences -> Navigator -> Tabbed Browsing
check "load links in the background"

that's that smile.gif
Volcano
Go to Preferences -> Navigator -> Tabbed Browsing. If you activate "load links in the background", opening a link while holding down CTRL (or with the middle mouse button) will do exactly what you want, but apparently there's no way to open a new tab and bring it to the front, then.

Edit: Whoops, you beat me to it. smile.gif
Continuum
Thank you! This is really a killer feature for me. I think I can free some HDD space now by removing Opera...cool.gif
I'll only have to accept that Windows is booting 15 secs slower rolleyes.gif
Benjamin Lebsanft
strange. It doesn't affect my boot time nor the time until i can click on the icons. Only the Mozilla symbol in the system tray takes a while!
Benjamin Lebsanft
btw I installed those mouse gestures. How do i activate them. Maybe I'm too stupid for that wink.gif

[edit]
obviously I can't read... wink.gif
ssamadhi97
Mozilla 1.1 alpha is available on mozilla.org

----8<-----------------------------------------

What's New In This Release:
Download Manager has been enabled (with many improvements) for the 1.1 Alpha release.
Mozilla now takes advantage of Quartz rendering for users of Mac OS X 10.1.5
Viewing HTML mail messages as plain text is new.
Quote original message has been implemented for 1.1a
We have new layout performance enhancements targeted at DHTML.
There have also been performance enhancements for the application startup speed.
Viewsource for MathML and view source for selections have been implemented.
Mozilla now has support for the display of XBM images.
Autocomplete in the addressbar has an improved sort order.
Browser tabs now close left to right (they used to close right to left).
The cross-plaform File Picker now has a button for creating a new directory.
Redundant backup of preferences files has been implemented in 1.1 Alpha.
Mozilla's drag and drop support has been greatly improved.
Image blocking for Mail & News has been implemented.

----8<-----------------------------------------

works like a charm here so far cool.gif

btw, I recommend the Orbit
Volcano
*grumble* When will they fix that damn bookmark system tongue.gif

And yes, Orbit rulez smile.gif

About that startup time for quick launch: It doesn't delay the actual Windows boot, it just adds an extra loading time afterwards (doesn't affect the accessability of the system, though) - on my system, that is.
ephemeros
quickstart feature using 15 MB of my precious memory? hm.. screw that.
anyway, 1.1a really starts up faster than 1.0 (or .99 for that matter)
unplugged
I have red in its site that is compiled with M$ Visual C++ compiler,
do anyone know if anyone (site) make regularly biggrin.gif builds of Mozilla with Intel C++ compiler 6.0?

It's well known on the net this compiler DO speed optimization miracles, hey... also very suitable for AMD platforms biggrin.gif.
rjamorim
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Originally posted by unplugged
I have red in its site that is compiled with M$ Visual C++ compiler,
do anyone know if anyone (site) make regularly biggrin.gif builds of Mozilla with Intel C++ compiler 6.0?

It's well known on the net this compiler DO speed optimization miracles, hey... also very suitable for AMD platforms biggrin.gif.


I tried that, and couldn't notice any great speed improvement.

Besides, that thing got too huge! Around 25Megs zipped.

Not really worth it.

Regards;

Roberto.
unplugged
QUOTE
Originally posted by rjamorim
Besides, that thing got too huge! Around 25Megs zipped.


Yeah, already downloaded, the unpacked source is 220 Mb!!!
Grrrrrr... what immense work :jawdrop:, now I can understand the Giant T-Rex!!!

Plus seems a pain to compile! It also needs some external stuff... (mentioned from Moz site)
rjamorim
QUOTE
Originally posted by unplugged

Plus seems a pain to compile! It also needs some external stuff... (mentioned from Moz site)


Indeed, it's a huge pain to find all the needed packages and stuff.

Blah! Opera is easier to handle. biggrin.gif

Regards;

Roberto.
xmixahlx
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btw, I recommend the Orbit skin. looks nice and has orange buttons 


yes yes! ORANGE! i love it!

QUOTE

Blah! Opera is easier to handle.


yeah, but if fux0rs everything up, and css looks like sheit.


good times...
mike
NickSD
Not yet sure if they've fixed this in 1.1a, but with 1.0 I had this annoying problem where sometimes you couldn't type in the address bar at the top. It just refused to accept keyboard input. Happened at least once a day.

Anyone else have this problem?
Coolin
Don't double right-click.

http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=70812
Jospoortvliet
about those loading times: I also read about it in a (quite good) dutch computermagazine. they said it was anoying it had to pre-load, because of the time and memorycapacity. and IE whouldnt do that.... well, actually IE does the same, but you can't disable it... !!!! :mad: that's how Micro$hit works.... thats why alot m$ software seems faster... preloading without warning/option... the basterds... and are there problems in 1.1 alpha?? because i like the new features, but dont want a buggy prog... (i got crashes enough in WinBlows)
Benjamin Lebsanft
QUOTE
Originally posted by NickSD
Not yet sure if they've fixed this in 1.1a, but with 1.0 I had this annoying problem where sometimes you couldn't type in the address bar at the top.  It just refused to accept keyboard input.  Happened at least once a day.

Anyone else have this problem?


yeah. Its quite annoying!
quellcore
Hello to everybody out there!

I have inhaled this forum daily for several months now, but i haven't registered until today! I'm a bad boy, sorry! :sign:
It's a bit strange that my first post is 'off topic', but anyway....
I was using 'Opera' until yesterday as my standard browser and now i'm addicted to some of the neat functions it has!
Just the fact, that so many webpages doesn't work properly in Opera pi**ed me off!

I've found this thread when it was started, so i switched to 'Mozilla' this week!
Installed the mouse gestures, because i couldn't live without it like all the others who were using 'Opera' before 'Mozilla' and already posted their replies in this thread!

So, here is my question! There is a function in Opera for your bookmarks, that you could just open a bookmark folder with right click and
:flipoff: simsalabim :flipoff: all webpages in that folder are opened! WONDERFUL!
It got really essential to me, is there a similar function/plugin for Mozilla, that would satisfy my needs? :needhelp:
Of cousre i already tried some things in Mozilla, but didn't have any luck up to now!

So far,... thanks in advance

Quellcore
Ardax
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Originally posted by quellcore
So, here is my question! There is a function in Opera for your bookmarks, that you could just open a bookmark folder with right click and 
:flipoff: simsalabim :flipoff: all webpages in that folder  are opened! WONDERFUL!
It got really essential to me, is there a similar function/plugin for Mozilla, that would satisfy my needs? :needhelp:


You can do something similar, but not exactly the same... First you have to be using tabbed browsing. Open up all the webpages you want into tabs (hmm, it might be nice ot have a feature that would open up a bookmark on a new tab, but anyway...), then open up to the Bookmarks menu. In the latest nightly builds, there's an option labeled "Bookmark This Group of Tabs". In 1.0, click "File Bookmark" and on the resulting page that pops up, there should be a checkbox for "Bookmark Group" or something similar (it should be the only checkbox, as well). Check that off before clicking Ok.
Jan S.
Moved this to off-topic forum where it belongs.
Gecko
One thing that's bothering me in the 1.1alpha release: they rearranged the order of the context menu... Previously in 1.0 there was 1) "open link in new tab" and 2) "open link in new window". I love tabs and got very used to the order of the menu. In 1.1alpha these two are reversed. (...again; they completely reorganized the menu in one of the 0.9.x builds, bringing "open link in new tab" to the top.) This is annoying, I hope they finally settle on which is supposed to be on top. Perhaps this can be tuned in the prefs.js? Any ideas? Otherwise this build is working as good as ever.
Xiann
Hi,

Question

I have a problem with Mozilla.

Warning: Supplied argument is not a valid MySQL result resource in .../... .php3 in line...

I get this message very often when using mozilla and the page is displayed incorrectly. I have never had this problem with explorer.

Is there some way to deal with this ?

Thanks.
Benjamin Lebsanft
i think this is a code error of the page you try to view! Maybe its not php/html conform but IE does correct it ?
William
php is a server-side script. It should have nothing to do with browsers, or am I missing something?
indybrett
It could be that IE doesn't fix it, but only ignores the SQL/PHP error message and doesn't display it.

Except that he says the page displays incorrectly in Mozilla, and I assume it looks OK in IE.

I do know that I was shopping the other day online with Mozilla, and when I would click on the product details, nothing would happen. Finally tried it in IE and sure enough, the details text would appear right next to the product.

I did make sure that I had javascript (and everything else) enabled in Mozilla.
Jospoortvliet
(cool new logo)

I had this problem a few times, too - or something like that. on a page, there was a frame with info about some shit, and 2 small buttons (I think with java-applets behind) to scroll down. worked perfect in IE, and didnt work at all in Mozilla...

Dunno why, could be mozilla being wrong, or could be IE being good smile.gif
William
It's because IE ignores most errors most of the time.

However, Mozilla is strictly standard-compliant, so it will report all errors it encountered, or maybe won't render the page at all...

Just my 2 cents...
Gecko
About Mozilla sometimes not working with some java script buttons/menus:

I have had the same problems. What makes them (or at least some of them, can't speak for all) go away, is a complete reinstall of Mozilla. Just uninstalling via Windows is not enough. You must also move your profile folder. You will loose all your settings, bookmarks and emails. At least the last two can be reimported. I don't know if there is a less painfull procedure (like only deleting the "prefs.js"... try this one first).

I noticed this, when I couldn't view the menu on musepack.org with v1.0 but others could.
Amadeus93
Okay, I've been happily using Mozilla for a while now, but suddenly, today, every time I go to any hydrogenaudio page, it asks if I would like to download the PHP file.

Any ideas?

Edit: I just went to the K-meleon web site (http://kmeleon.sourceforge.net/download.php) and it displayed just fine...
Amadeus93
Sorry, more clarification. I am having problems with the View New Posts link (http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/search...=&action=getnew) and http://www.hydrogenaudio.org. Strangely enough, if I go to http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php, it works fine.
Jospoortvliet
It wasnt mozilla's fault, I tried IE 6 and it didnt work too - must have been a server error or any other mistake on their side...
Continuum
QUOTE
Originally posted by Amadeus93
Okay, I've been happily using Mozilla for a while now, but suddenly, today, every time I go to any hydrogenaudio page, it asks if I would like to download the PHP file.

Any ideas?

Edit: I just went to the K-meleon web site (http://kmeleon.sourceforge.net/download.php) and it displayed just fine...
I had the same problem. My solution was pressing the reset button in "Preferences - Navigation - Helper Applications". Maybe this helps.
Gecko
I have the same problem, hydrogenaudio's main page sends me the raw php script! Something must be wrong with the webserver, this should never happen. Today IE works fine, allthough it showed the same symptomes yesterday. If I access a page directly (like from the eMail notifications) it also display correctly in Mozilla. Resetting the "helper applications" had no effect.

edit: more info: other vBulletin based forums like head-fi.org work fine. I think I first encountered that problem after downloading the "lovelife" sample in the "curiously high bitrate with --alt-preset standard" thread. The link was somehow "bent" to use port 81. So this may also be a problem on my side, but I don't know how to fix it.

edit2: magically working again. Maybe the server Admins simply fixed the bug. What I did meanwhile: I let Mozilla connect directly to the net instead of using Webwasher... Hydrogenaudio was wroking again! When I re-set Mozilla back to use the Webwasher proxy it continued working.
Jospoortvliet
Alot ppl posted ideas 'bout what was wrong, but there doesn't seem to be a single reason - and we had the same problem, so I think the same thing must have caused it... After all, I think it was a server-side problem, which has been fixed. strange enough, some pages still have the problem for me, but it might be a cache-problem.

/J
Tinribs
Just wondering how you are all getting on with Mozilla now you've had a while to test it properly?

I switched from Opera to Moz about the same time and love it, running 1.2a now and no crashes once in all my Moz time.
Page loading seems comparable to IE if not better,and mostly similar to Opera,but pages obviously look better than Opera.
All in all a great browser,I'm sold and will never go back, how about you? B)
Benjamin Lebsanft
yeah I'm very happy with it. The phoenix project is going to be interesting aswell!
Continuum
I saw the marvelous tabs and never looked back B) (well, sometimes I start IE for a few sites).

Indispensible plug-ins:
http://optimoz.mozdev.org/gestures/
http://multizilla.mozdev.org/
Tinribs
Shame on you Continuum tongue.gif
metrom
Opera is still the fastest!
On both linux and windows plattform.
Dibrom
QUOTE(metrom @ Sep 26 2002 - 01:04 PM)
Opera is still the fastest!
On both linux and windows plattform.

The fastest at what?

Loading?

Maybe, though the Mozilla 1.2 alpha I'm using right now loads faster than IE even, and I don't remember Opera loading significantly faster (I mean, it's kind of hard to gauge less than a second anyway wink.gif).

Rendering?

I don't think so. Almost all the pages I go to render much faster in Mozilla than in Opera, and they render faster in IE as well. I think just about any tables heavy page renders faster in Mozilla these days.

Opera keeps claiming that it's the "fastest browser on earth", I think this needs a bit of clarification. Either that, or it's just simply hype.
Xenno
It's really a tossup to me. Moz 1.2a is very good, and so is IE6. I use both depending on the sun's position relative to my right ear lobe. In a few instances IE does a better job displaying pages. Moz seems a tad quicker (probably too close to call). Both have similar start up times.

Xenno
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