I was just wondering which program everyone would recommend as being the fastest wav editor.

I am reading vinyl from an input line and am finding it tedious to use high tech wav editors to cut the tracks because it simply takes too long. I find software that cuts the tracks apart automatically to be too unreliable.

I have no problem reading the album into one wav file but I wanted to know if anyone had a recommendation for the fastest wav editing software in order to quickly split the tracks quickly. No other options are necessary except for speed! Thanks.

One of the fastest possibilities is certainly using a cue sheet + foobar2000's diskwriter for splitting. To avoid clicks at the beginning / end of the files you might want to split at zero crossing or apply fades which isn't possible with this method afai.

I haven't compared much, but to me it seems like CoolEditPro/Audition has similar speed (if undo is disabled) + cutting at zero crossing / fade-in + -out is possible.

For faster performance it is a good idea to save the split files on a different (physical) drive than the source file.

Try cdwave www.cdwave.com Pretty much what it does is record files and split them into tracks. I haven'thad great luck with the automatic track (silence) detection, but manual works pretty well. You mark all the split points, optionally name them (or else you get sequential numbers appended on the root-file name) and hit save.

If your purpose is to burn a CD, have a look at http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index....t=ST&f=1&t=4425

Another recommendation for CDWave. It's basically a graphical CUE sheet editor, so you can use it for creating the cuesheet and do the actual processing in fb2k.

dev0

I've been using CDWave, but just couldn' get in tune with the automatic splitter!? I tried numerous variations and combinations, but could hardly hit the right one. It's just a waste of time... the manual splitter works exceptionally well, and it's faster splitting tracks that way. It's so easy to use you'll just love this piece of gem!

My main problem really is the "click" sound at the end of the music after recording to CD. After splitting the file with CDWave, I would snip the portion I don't need and edit/apply the necessary fade-in/fade-out/silencing, with Cool Edit. Listening to the WAV file while still on my HD is soooo beautiful, just the way I wanted it!! But when it hits CD, that faint click at the end is always there...

I tried the advice of our gracious moderator, to burn it with Feurio, which I did, but it's the same result, burning it with Nero at DAO. I still hear the click...

I'm reading some notes written by the author of Wave Repair: Quote: "Finally, if the music data in WAV is not a multiple of 2352 bytes (the block size of a CD), then the last block might be left as garbage resulting in a small click on playback;
other burning software will fill the last block with zeros, so be sure that the last sample in your WAV file is zero to avoid a click in the transition." Fine, but how can you do this manually with our existing Wave Editor's when this are not emphasized in their manuals. I'm now reading something about CUE Sheets.
I think if I make CDWave to auto split, it might split the track in the right place, thereby avoiding this click. Or is there a better sofware that does this??

Have you had any experience with this problem? Sorry, for the long post...

-Dan

CDWave will automatically cut at sectors (hence its name and original purpose). In order to have a "perfect" CD you'll most likely have to leave out a small amount of audio data at the end of your recorded audio in order to have all tracks align at the sector boundaries.

CDwav's main function is to ensure that you always cut on a CD frame boundry (i.e. nothing extra will be added when burning CD tracks - your files will end on a multiple of exactly 2000-and-whatever-it-is samples - 75ms IIRC).

EDIT: dev0 got there first!

As long as you don't change the number of samples in each .wav file after this splitting, you won't have a problem. You don't need to do anything to the .wavs that come out of CDwav to avoid clicking at track boundaries when burnt to CD. You don't need to fade them (unless you want to, of course).

Make sure "save additional non-audio data" is UNchecked in Cool Edit.
Is your CD writer very old, and maybe doesn't support Disc-at-once?


The advice that files which don't end on a CD frame coundary will get garbage added to them when burnt to CD sounds like very old advice to me. All CD writing packages I've ever used have simply zero padded. With .wavs that are faded at each end, there should be no glitch, whatever their duration.

Cheers,
David.

I'm assuming you're referring to the "Auto Split" function of CDWave. It measures and cuts at the right track boundaries. Or is it the same when you split it manually. Manually splitting it of course can be aimed at any part of the silence gap of your LP recording which maybe off. Am I right here? The problem with CDWave auto split is I could hardly get it to work.

I just posted in another topic (Click sound at the end of a recording) some notes from the CDWave website. Would you be kind enough to browse over it...

Thanks for your comment.

-Dan

Which means that you need a Cue Sheet of some sort for the CDR burner to read.
Am I right?

Thanks for your reply...

-Dan

CDWave always cuts at sector boundries. That's its sole purpose and speciality.

To get perfect tracking (-> no clicks) you have to add a cue point short before the end too, so the last track will be correctly aligned.

Thanks for all the replies. Essentially, here is what I am looking for. I want a program that I say cut from 00:00 to 3:20 and make that a track. Then cut from 3:21 to 4:05 and make that track 2. Now make 4:06 to 8:47 a track.

I have no problem executing this with various programs such as Rip, Edit, Burn, and other programs of the such. The problem is that this takes a lot of time to scan and change and save and etc.

I want something that I can just click, cut or edit, and save and then be able to do another one right away. It seems that cutting 12 tracks out of 1 big wav is taking 5-20 minutes when I already know the preset places to cut the wav.

Any suggestions or is CDwave the way to go? My main, and essentially only concern, is speed.

Thanks again.

So with CDwave, you would load or drag the wave file on, then either click on the track gaps
visually (you can listen too), or load your previously prepared Cue sheet in the format:



Then hit "save." All tracks get saved by the one command, so you don't have to make a selection and save each individually like you might in Cool Edit.

Edit: I'm not using the latest version of CDwave (gotta get around to that...). The new one may let you do something like "go forward 3:48" (based on track length listed on the album).

Personnaly I'm using DCArt 32, mostly for it's filters, but it has a slicing for CD quite simple to use. But I don't know if it would be fast enough for you.

In the old version I put markers to where I want to cut, then ask "Quantize for CD Audio" followed by "Chop file into pieces" quite simple to use.

There is a new version that I haven't tried. DC Millennium.

Available there : http://www.enhancedaudio.com/millennium.htm
You can even try a demo for 10 days.

Manual split also cuts on sector boundries, always. That is the purpose of the program. I didn't even know it had an auto-split feature. Never used it.

Feurio Track Editor if you like a non-destructive editor and your burner is supported.

Press "Split Tracks (linked)".
It's really fast and no need to worry about pauses, the tracks will be always linked.

The long WAV won't be modified.
It also has a nice option to record the sound.

You have to select "Do not insert pauses between tracks" instead of the default option.

If there's still clicks, then the silence is in the WAV.
Open the Track Editor to "see" it.

SoundForge does the trick for me. I can record and title a whole album
in under an hour by using the "extract regions" function (don't use copy and paste) . The only time you have to wait for the disk is when saving at the end.

http://audacity.sourceforge.net ... Audacity is an open-source freeware wav editor that looks very promising ... VST support included, OGG support and LAME included