I was encoding MP3 with Windac, Radium Codec and W'95 few years ago. Now I'm trying to use EAC or CDex under XP, but I can't access to the Radium codec installed (available when I check the multimedia codecs in Windows).
Any help?
Thx!

No need to use Radium - LAME (which comes with EAC or CDex) is much better on the ears and the soul. It sounds like you're at least a couple of years out of touch with the whole ripping/encoding stuff.

Let me guess: you're one of the LAME developer ?!
Even if you're right, can you tell me if these rippers can access to windows internal codecs?

I'm not a developer, just a happy user (and I use Ogg more often than LAME these days). I'm sure you could get access to the windows codecs through some nifty use of the external encoder option, but honestly, you don't want to be using Radium in this day and age.

If you really want bad quality, you can use ACM codec (Radium) in EAC.

Go in /compression option/waveform (and not /compression option/external compression) : all installed ACM codec are available (like LAME3.92 ACM, ATRAC3, ....).

Radium is buggy, very slow, and bad quality (awful with joint stereo).


[EDIT : change the stupid syntax - thx DSPguru]

the radium hacked fhg amc codec also has the 100hz tone bug

persoanlly i teste lame v3.8x vs the radium cooded way back

Lame rocked alle my test files

why do you want to use the RAdium hacked FHG ACM codec ?

I second that, stay away from joint stereo if you have to use the Radium hack. But if you do what's smart and switch to LAME, stick with joint stereo (which is at least defaulted in the high quality presets). The joint stereo in LAME is very, very good.

EDIT: PS! You're not one of those ripping crew members who think the ancient Radium-hack is L33T do you?

i believe the LAME acm has the exact same quality as lame_enc.dll or lame.exe.
moreover, the recent LAME ACM release by Steve Lhomme even supports VBR.

anyway, i would advise you to use CDEX .

Dg.

Yeah, the current Lame ACM is from the newer builds.
Lame 3.92 package from mitiok includes the new ACM codec.

Ok Guys,
I'll go for Lame within EAC. I promise I won't use Radium anymore... But there was a time, a long time ago, when it was my only hope.
These days I was more divx oriented, but I recently bought an Archos MP3 player, and I need some nice new songs from my old CD (20 Go: that's HUGE!!!).
I've just tried CDex, which seems quite good and efficient but everybody, except DSPguru (who's not the first to encode mp3 I guess), tells me to go for EAC for "security reasons". The Lame encoder part requires some changes in the included command line, because it doesn't work with Lame 3.92. The result was uncompressed .wav. I've just updated the command line whith smthg like -b 192 --alt-preset cbr 192. By the way, with this line what's the use of "bit rate" just below ?
Sorry for the long post

Hehe If you use CDex in Paranoia Mode, it does roughly the same job as EAC. It depends on your CD-ROM drive which one really does the better job. (Read this thread, and you'll see what I mean.)

I prefer EAC myself, because it gives you more detailed information on the ripping status, because it reads images with CUE sheets, because the integrated wave editor is very useful, because you can configure just about anything, and because of the (IMHO) better GUI.

That shouldn't happen, perhaps some settings were incorrect.

Specifying "-b 192" is unnecessary.
I used to think that the "bit rate" option has no effect whatsoever when using LAME. It appears, though, that at least with ABR (dunno about CBR and VBR) that option influences the "minimum bitrate" setting.

For that reason, I would use the "user defined encoder" setting, as the bitrate selector then *really* has no effect unless you specify a variable for it in the "command line" field. Use the command line "--alt-preset cbr 192 %s %d", and you'll be fine. (The %s/%d are variables for input and output file.)

HTH,

Dominic

Firstly, well done for using --alt-preset - it's the best way to encode in LAME (and should be made the default IMO). Just a couple of points: firstly, the '-b 192' is doing nothing there, and should just be removed - the best way to use LAME is just with a --alt-present command. Secondly, are you sure you want CBR 192? While it was the 'gold standard' a few years ago, it's now regarded as being obsolete if you're looking for the best in sound quality. LAME is incredibly good at producing VBR (Variable BitRate) output, and Dibrom has produced some incredibly good quality VBR settings. For a little more bitrate than 192 CBR, you can use '--alt-preset standard', which has *much* better sound quality (and there are higher levels if 'standard' isn't enough for you). Even if you were determined to stick to 192, you might consider using ABR instead (by using '--alt-preset 192' - miss out the 'cbr').

where can i find this lame acm that supports VBR. the last one i got only supported CBR and ABR. Note that i don't want to use it for my rips, i just want to have something i can play with

U turn !!!
I'll go for VBR as described by Dibrom. I'd like to have 192 kbps mp3 at the end: --alt-preset standard does the job ?
BTW, which routine is used with this setting? Where are the preset fully detailed. I found some features, but not everything...
I don't wanna argue about which extractor is the best. If you wanna be highly confused just take a look at http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/showth...=&threadid=1695

THX
j@c€

The more I read, the less I understand what I should use... :battle:
I believe this is absolutely normal !

From my point of view:
Cdex, with Lame, allows to keep CPU usage apparently low (35% with my Duron 750, 512 Mo), and EAC, with Lame, uses 100% (normal priority)

One more thing: how does it come that in the Lame Official page there's no preset details, even if they work with Lame 3.92? (such as r3mix, standard...) It's really tricky to find what the preset are, except r3mix...

Wasn't that a decoding bug in Winamp? I didn't think it cropped up in any encoders?
Perhaps the radium decoder???

Simple guide -
both CDex and EAC are excellent rippers. Which is better at ripping 'problem' CDs depends on your CD drive, although EAC has the edge in reputation. Both have similar features for the everyday user, although EAC has more for the advanced user.

There are 'political' issues why the --alt-presets are not better documented / made the standard. Simple guide:
[list]
And that's it!

(edit: fixed typo -V -> -Y)

I'm pretty sure that line should end with -Y instead of -V.

Correct. He may have been referring to the stereo collapse bug ( or at least, I think it was that one ), which is documented on ff123.net

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GCP

When using CDex with Lame.exe as external encoder (in order to use the command line, better than the included options with the lame_enc.dll), the extraction's fine but there is no file to compress. Is smthg wrong with the command line and the filename?:confused:

Did you specify "%1 %2" for input and output files?

Example: "--alt-preset standard %1 %2"

CU

Dominic

PS: Jon: --alt-preset insane is not a VBR preset, it encodes at 320 kbits/s CBR.

No I haven't! I thought it worked like EAC...
I'm stupid anyway!

You learn something new every day