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theboyjenkins
i'm probably talking total garbage, but would it be possible to wrap mp3 in a the ogg/vorbis file format. i'm not thinking for quality purposes (i know it won't make any difference) i'm thinking so you could utilize the much better ogg tags and a proper replaygain implementation.

i pretty sure the ideas nonsense but i had to ask....

-J
AgentMil
Hehe biggrin.gif sometimes good ideas started out as nonsense!

Cheers
redcane
Yes, you could technically wrap MP3 in OGG, but I think you'd still be stuck with the tags in the MP3 stream.

I beleive replaygain and such are part of the Vorbis stream inside the ogg.
Garf
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Originally posted by redcane

I beleive replaygain and such are part of the Vorbis stream inside the ogg.


Correct. (so are the other tags)

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GCP
Neo Neko
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Originally posted by redcane
Yes, you could technically wrap MP3 in OGG, but I think you'd still be stuck with the tags in the MP3 stream.


You could remove em befoore you mux.

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I beleive replaygain and such are part of the Vorbis stream inside the ogg.


Unless they have changed they comprise 2 or 3 taggs in the OGG file that you could change or edit by hand.

You can do this with Tobias's directshow OGG filters and graph edit. But the result will only play with his filters ATM.
Garf
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Originally posted by Neo Neko

Unless they have changed they comprise 2 or 3 taggs in the OGG file that you could change or edit by hand.


I repeat: They're tags in the Vorbis file, not in the Ogg container. If you mux MP3, they won't be there.

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GCP
KAMiKAZOW
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Originally posted by Garf


I repeat: They're tags in the Vorbis file, not in the Ogg container. If you mux MP3, they won't be there.

Maybe there could be also a small Vorbis file (eg. 1/10 of a second, just silence) as "Tag Track" inside of the OGG container.

Just a thought.
redcane
You could also perhaps define an MP3 stream that contained mp3 data, and a more vorbis styled header. (I think).
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