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sshd
(slightly off-topic)

@rohangc - I am an Iron Maiden fan too. In the late 90s they withdrew all their original albums and released new remastered enhanced cds. The remastered versions are terrible, heavyly compressed, way too loud, dead fidelity, etc.

There might be exceptions. I have only compared the following remastered with the original versions:

Number of the Beast.
Powerslave
Piece of Mind
Somewhere in Time
Seventh Son of a Seventh Son
Ed Hunter Box Set (compared some of the tracks with the albums they were taken from)

So if you are a real fan, you should discard the remasters and go hunt for the original versions.
Loke
QUOTE(sshd @ Jan 30 2004, 05:22 PM)
(slightly off-topic)

@rohangc - I am an Iron Maiden fan too. In the late 90s they withdrew all their original albums and released new remastered enhanced cds. The remastered versions are terrible, heavyly compressed, way too loud, dead fidelity, etc.

Are you sure the albums have been compressed? I know thw volume has been increased, but that could be the result of normalising, and limiting.
Sure there's a bit clipping, but there's neceserely not been done any compressing.

I have some of those rereleased albums, unfortunately I can't compare to the old releases, to hear if there has been altering of the original music, other than increasing the volume.
dreamliner77
Limiting and added clipping is essentially compression
Loke
QUOTE(dreamliner77 @ Jan 30 2004, 07:24 PM)
Limiting and added clipping is essentially compression

Well, yeah, but I don't think these albums is limited that much.

I have other albums also, where the volume has been raised, so there occurs even alot of clipping, t.e. GTA vice-city albums. If I take these albums and lower them to 89dB with wavegain, and then do the same with the releases from the 80s, I can't hear a difference. Besides 'some' distortion from the clipping, but I guess they are over such a short period so I can't hear it.
This tells me they haven't compressed the music, just raised the volume linear. If the music was compressed I would hear a differece, right? That the volume is at a very constant level, at all frequencies.
rohangc
QUOTE(sshd @ Jan 30 2004, 04:22 AM)
(slightly off-topic)

@rohangc - I am an Iron Maiden fan too. In the late 90s they withdrew all their original albums and released new remastered enhanced cds. The remastered versions are terrible, heavyly compressed, way too loud, dead fidelity, etc.

Well, I am quite aware of this problem. The first few albums were remastered and released again. Albums starting with "The X-Factor" are not remastered. Unfortunately, I have only the remasters (except "Iron Maiden") and I too am quite unhappy with the compression. They might also be copy protected although it doesn't say so on the covers. The problem is, I did not know that the old versions were available (are they?). If I knew, I wouldn't have bought these in the first place. Although it is too late now and I cannot afford to replace my entire Iron Maiden collection all over again.
Iron Maiden remasters are tolerable, but the Judas Priest remasters by Jon Astley are terrible mad.gif!! I had to go through a lot of pain and spend an exorbitant amount of money to buy the old version Judas Priest CDs. I am proud to tell you that except "Sin After Sin", all my Judas Priest CDs are non-remastered.
I guess we cannot do much about this but complain to the record labels-but they always turn a deaf ear to both musicians and customers. When will they ever change?
dreamliner77
AFAIK- There are 3 versions of Iron Maiden albums

1) The Origianl Releases
2) The Castle Records Re-Releases
3) The Sony Remasters

I only have a representative from the first two: Number of the beast original release and Fear Of The Dark from Castle (I have heard others from the castle releases, a friend of mine has them all).

I must say that I kinda like the sound of the Castle releases, I think they were remastered, they are at least a little "hotter". Plus they had a bunch of cool bonus tracks. From what I've heard, I definitely recommend these releases if they can be found.
sshd
I Europe there are:

EMI original releases
EMI remasters

I've got representatives from both and the remasters suck.

I've also got a Sony remaster from USA - sucks too.
Diamond
Hey:
It seems I've joined quite late to the discussion, anyway, I'll write my comments.
I have No Prayer For The Dying remastered, and I have to say it sounds great, and it was an excellent buying. It comes with 2 video clips, and additional stuff.
I've seen other remastered albums, and they are also great and come with even 4 clips.
I'm not sure but I think my copy was remastered by EMI or released by EMI.
In conclusion, I think they were great remastered and added a lot of extra great stuff.

Thanks
Ragnarok
QUOTE(Diamond @ Feb 26 2004, 08:43) *

Hey:
It seems I've joined quite late to the discussion, anyway, I'll write my comments.
I have No Prayer For The Dying remastered, and I have to say it sounds great, and it was an excellent buying. It comes with 2 video clips, and additional stuff.
I've seen other remastered albums, and they are also great and come with even 4 clips.
I'm not sure but I think my copy was remastered by EMI or released by EMI.
In conclusion, I think they were great remastered and added a lot of extra great stuff.

Thanks


They are hotter for sure some have a -3db cut off and some clip. it's hard to tell if these remasters are less dynamic without an original track to compair with. Still if you zoom out it can be mistaken for a brick all of noise I guess. The evidence I've seen says the originals are best.
rohangc
QUOTE(Ragnarok @ Mar 25 2007, 15:03) *

They are hotter for sure some have a -3db cut off and some clip. it's hard to tell if these remasters are less dynamic without an original track to compair with. Still if you zoom out it can be mistaken for a brick all of noise I guess. The evidence I've seen says the originals are best.


The problem is that the originals are so hard to come by these days. With great difficulty, I found myself a brand new copy of the Castle release of "Seventh Son Of a Seventh Son". I like this better than the remaster...Probably a placebo effect.
emitremmus
QUOTE(sshd @ Jan 30 2004, 04:22 AM)
(slightly off-topic)
I have only the remasters (except "Iron Maiden") and I too am quite unhappy with the compression.


Yeah maybe you're right I prefer the original respect the digittaly remaster, but now are a little difficult to find. However compression or not compression Iron Maiden rock! wink.gif
rohangc
QUOTE(emitremmus @ May 8 2007, 17:51) *

Yeah maybe you're right I prefer the original respect the digittaly remaster, but now are a little difficult to find. However compression or not compression Iron Maiden rock! wink.gif


Off topic:

Yeah! I second that. Up the Irons! Saw them recently in their first ever Indian concert. Had an amzing time!
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