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tacitus10
MPC's with WAV headers, is it possible?

I have no interest in video, it is for ACM based music production programs. I see there is a Direct Show filter on Rarewares so it would be great to see a program that adds wav headers to MPC.
rjamorim
ACM can be read from DirectShow, but not the other way around.

So, if you want to use it on Logic, you will need to wait for someone to at least implement an ACM decoder.
tacitus10
FL Studio, formerly "Fruity Loops", already supports ACM and comes bundled with ogg samples with wav headers. I do not know how they got the wav headers on them. MPC would be even better though.
ChristianHJW
It should be possible to add a WAV header to MPC, yes. I just wonder why you are contantly trying to break formats just to be able to play them in a retarded program using ACM codec interface .....
rjamorim
QUOTE(ChristianHJW @ Feb 6 2004, 07:55 AM)
I just wonder why you are contantly trying to break formats [...]

Insisting on putting MPEG4 video (DivX, XviD, etc.) inside Matroska instead of MP4 is as much "breaking formats" as putting Vorbis inside of WAV biggrin.gif

Both are non-standard containers for those formats, that lead (or will) to usability issues.
ChristianHJW
QUOTE(rjamorim @ Feb 6 2004, 10:53 AM)
Both are non-standard containers for those formats, that lead (or will) to usability issues.

You are maybe right about the 'non-standard' container, but as a matter of fact, if i want to use a Vorbis audio with a MPEG4 video track in my movie, matroska and OGM are the only viable options right now. Or think MPEG4 video + FLAC audio, or whatever. So, depending on what i want to do it, the user might have a reason to use matroska instead of MP4.

But, what i dont get here is, why would anybody want to put MPC into WAV, instead of using the native format ? What's the benefit ? You cant edit the WAV file in any WAV based audio editor as current MPC blocks cant be handled that way ( bit from sample blocks may be distributed over several packed blocks and the like, SV 7.5 was supposed to solve this ), you cant seek in the file, so whats the point ?

After all, i was just curious if there actually is a reason i didnt think of ......
jcsston
QUOTE(rjamorim @ Feb 6 2004, 02:53 AM)
QUOTE(ChristianHJW @ Feb 6 2004, 07:55 AM)
I just wonder why you are contantly trying to break formats [...]

Insisting on putting MPEG4 video (DivX, XviD, etc.) inside Matroska instead of MP4 is as much "breaking formats" as putting Vorbis inside of WAV biggrin.gif

Not quite.

Matroska was designed to handle all sorts of formats, with room for future codecs that no one has even dreamed of yet. (think Q-frames for audio)

However, WAV was designed to be a simple constant bytes per sample format. Each block has to be independently decodable, be the same size, and have the same number of samples. Vorbis fails on the last two. VBR MP3 only fails on the second, RealAudio would fail on all three.
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