sorry to reiterate my quesiton from earlier on, but it's been lost in the conversation that has arisen since.

which firmware is best for 3g ipod owners (i have the 15gb 3g version) who want to use foo_pod? does anyone have a link to it?

also, does anyone have a link to itunes 4.8 so i can have the ipod organized so that it will work best with foo_pod?

In general, the last good updater was the 2005-03-23 Updater, which has firmware version 2.3 for the 3G. That looks like that is the same version contained in the latest firmware, so I guess the 3G is probably not affected.

k thx

anyone have itunes 4.8? i can't find it on google, onl links to version 6 on apple site

Why do you want iTunes 4.8? iTunes 4.7 is the most compatable with foo_pod (or vice versa), so if that is what you want, you want version 4.7. Otherwise, I don't know why you wouldn't want the latest version of iTunes.

You will have to look pretty hard to find old versions of iTunes - Apple actively discourages 3rd party sites from distributing any version of iTunes (e.g. OldVersion.com).

Smartplaylists that use ratings....can someone give me a quick tutorial on what I need to do this in foobar and foo_pod?

Thanks!

Edit: Made the request more specific.

i did a little bit of hunting, and found this french driver download site which hosts all of the old updates for Windows iPods (including 2005-03-23).

still trying to find a link to download iTunes 4.7.1...

Wasn't there a 4.7.2? Then anyone who wants to host 4.7 will probably only have 4.7.2...

What's your problem, deleted the uninstall files and can't get rid of the old version? Or you just wanna downgrade?

hm, i guess i didn't know there was a 4.7.2. i wanted to downgrade, so that i could safely use both iTunes and foo_pod to add songs to the iPod. this way i wouldn't have to show my girlfriend another set of instructions on how to put her mp3s on there, since she already knows her way around iTunes a little bit.

i guess 4.7.1 is what i want then, not 4.8 i'll look for that, too

Hi

foo_pod isn't adding the genre's at all AFAIK to teh ipod Music - Genre section and also, in the playlist section of the ipod, are a whole bunch of playlists called "Podcasts" for every file I copied over.

I'm using latest itunes and also have ran yamipod, which might have something to do with it.

Oh yeah, and now iTunes doesn't see any music on the iPod, altho it does see the playlists, but they show up on the Ipod itself.

foo_pod is not currently completely compatible with iPod databases created by iTunes 4.9 and higher (mainly due to the fact that I don't have an iPod that works well with the new firmware). You can try setting the database format to 4.9 (Advanced tab of the foo_pod Preferences) and see if that helps.

so, why isn't 4.8 the best version to use with foo_pod, then, instead of 4.7.1?

You're correct - I thought the database changed between 4.7 and 4.8, but in fact, they are identical. 4.9 is when things changed.

i now have itunes 4.8 installed, i've formatted the ipod with the latest firmware (my ipod is 15gig 3g, so it's firmware 2.3), opened it in itunes to give it the old database format, and then i closed itunes and opened the ipod with foo_pod.

i still cannot transcode my flac files when they are sent to the ipod. i get the following messages in the console:

what settings should i have in the foo_pod preferences? i want to use lame 3.97beta1 with -V2 --vbr-new.

hi... i have a 5g video ipod and have been using foo_pod for the past couple of days... its great (both of them)! i had a couple of problems with it though, im guessing because of the new model. the first one is with sending playlists; sometimes they become unsorted on the ipod even though its in order on foobar. and the second is copying mp3's directly onto the ipod: i can get foo_pod to rebuild the itunesDB so its visible on the ipod but when it attempts to play, it just skips through each song in the playlist as if it was 0 seconds long (although the correct song length is shown). am i doing something wrong here? thanks!

ok, so i got a lame encoding profile for foo_pod (at least, it works with diskwriter).

whenever i try to send a flac file to the ipod with foo_pod, though, a second process of foobar opens in the task manager and both of these processes stop responding. what's wrong with foo_pod? i use foobar 0.8.3, foo_pod 0.9.9m, and have a 3g ipod with itunes 4.8 installed (foo_pod is using the 4.8 databse mode) and ipod updater 2005-10-12 installed (ipod firmware 2.3 for me)

I'm not sure what the playlist sorting problem is - I haven't seen anything like that on my iPods, so it could be something that has changed on the 5G.

As for the rebuilding the iTunesDB, it could be a filename length problem. Different iPod models have different maximum filename length (note that this length includes the filename + the directory name(s)). From my experience, this maximum length has gotten shorter with newer iPods, so it is possible that the 5G can only play songs that have the filename length that iTunes uses.

If you want to do a test, copy a song called "a.mp3" to iPod_Control/Music/F00/a.mp3, rebuild the database, and see if it plays. If that works but your other songs don't, it is probably a filename length issue.

Have you tried any of the MP3 presets?

http://stuff.techwhack.com/index.php?categ...lities/&paged=2

I found 4.8 at this site after about an hour of searching.

I have the video ipod also, and you're right it rocks. I didn't think I'd bother watching movies on it because it seemed there was no easy way to rip DVDs to mp4 video and because I thought the screen would suck to watch. - Itunes certainly won't let you rip dvds [can you imagine if the original itunes hadn't allowed you to rip audio cds to an ipod - I don't know wtf apple thinks its doing], but if anyones interested nero recode does a really good job (and fast!) of coding dvds for watching on an ipod (just make sure you tick quicktime compatibility). Also - have you noticed how the 5G ipod SOUNDS better ? It has bottom end in spades !

Anyway. 0.9.9m works just fine for loading music on the 5G, but unfortunately all your songs ALSO appear under the videos section in the ipod. You also can't use foopod to load movies to the ipod (they play back audio only if you try). So as a work-flow, I can load all my music with foo_pod and then afterwards load my movies with itunes 6.0.1 (Anyone know how different the 6.0.1 DB format is from 4.9 - is it just the movies support?). Any plans to update foo_pod so it simply knows what movies are, and how to put them on properly and how not to mess them up in a database rebuild, which it seems to (fair enough !! - I know foobar doesn't play pictures). To be honest I've steered clear of database rebuilding for a while, it was always this that sent my 60gig photo into a perpetual reboot, did I read that this bug was fixed ? (I wasn't really clear whether it was just fixed for database build, or rebuild too). Anyway. Foopod is still rockin'; keep up the good work !

Thanks for the report. Someone recently documented a flag in the new database format that controls where files appear. Unfortunately, Apple choose the value '0' to mean to put it in both places, and since foo_pod doesn't know what this flag does, it writes a '0'.



I don't have a 5G iPod, and currently don't have any plans to buy one, so it would be difficult to add support for movies. If I bought one, I would definitely look into adding video support. Although since Foobar doesn't support video, I'm not sure how that would work - it would probably need to be a separate application.



Thanks! I fixed the bug that you reported that caused the reboot problem, so the latest foo_pod should be fine to rebuild the database.

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Movies that you create or download for ipod playback, all seem to have the suffix .mp4. If you load them into foobar, it is quite happy to play the audio track from them. If you tell it to load this file to the ipod, it plays back on the ipod audio-only, but nothing in the file data has changed, so presumably the video data is still there untouched, but the file is not shown in the database correctly for the pod to know its supposed to be looking for video. I can think of two ideas. 1) a tickbox to tell foo_pod that anything with .mp4 suffix is a video file (no good if you have audio only mp4s, although aren't they usually called .m4a ???). 2) You have a right-click menu option that says, 'load selected files to ipod AS VIDEO' - once the video database format is documented, then option 2 should be easy enough to implement, no ? What was the word on an album-art feature for foo_pod too ? Did you say something about paypal contributions at one point ? I'd rather give you my money than Mediafour or the Anapod people !

Anyway just some ideas. Thanks again.

cheers

Clunesy

Interesting. I'm not sure how to make this work on the 5G without more information about the database. If the file is transferred directly, then it might be as easy as just setting the video flag in the new database. But I bet there is some other data (video length, resolution, etc.) required to make it play on the iPod.

One quasi-related thing is that if you use the WMA Foobar component, you can load .wmv (Windows Media Video files) and transcode them into MP3/AAC audio format for playback on the iPod.



I believe there has been some more information on the album art database format, but I haven't looked into it lately. I'd definitely like to add some album art support (and Photos, as well), and I have gone through and download artwork for almost all of my music, so I have some extra incentive to get it working.



There is some information in the foo_pod Readme.txt file, although I haven't really pushed it. I have received a grand total of 2 contributions, so I'm still a little ways away from 5G kind of money...

Feel free to use my album art finder code from foo_uie_albumart to find the image to embed into the file transfered so that there is uniformity between foobar and the iPod. Too bad I'm still with my aged G3 40 gigger, but if I ever get a new iPod, it would be very nice to have an album art feature in foo_pod.
Keep up the great work, foo_pod is invaluable!

HELP!

I am sure this has been answered elsewhere countless times probably, but I am having some foo_pod issues. I have the new version...this is my first time trying the program. I plugged in the iPod and started transferring files, and then when to open the iPod in iTunes to edit and create playlists, and iTunes recognizes my iPod but doesn't display the songs. It knows they are there because the slider gets really small when in the main "Library" folder, indicating a large number of tracks, and it gets smaller in the various playlists. But it looks as if the iPod is completely empty. Just the white and light blue bars appear, making the Library look empty. What's wrong? Did foo_pod automatically edit my database making it impossible to use with iTunes? HELP!

I think you should at least tell us iPod model, firmware release, foo_pod version and iTunes version.

Also read 1 or 2 pages back in this thread to find some useful information.

HTH.

Alessandro

Also note the searchbox at the bottom of the thread that allows you to search the thread.

Really? No kiddin!

Anyways...the iPod is a 4th Gen 40gig, the firmware is the most recent, the foo_pod version is the most recent, and the iTunes version is the moth recent.

Thanks to anyone who can help. I think it might be a problem with the iPodDB file. Foobar can read it, iTunes can't...it shows that there is space taken up on the iPod (says 3 gigs free), but won't show what is taking up that space. It won't show the songs.

http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index....ndpost&p=339432

HTH.

Alessandro

Does this plugin work for other MP3 players, or just iPod?

hey thanks for this... I found out that the "tracknumber" ID3 tag was not updated leading to the out-of-sequence issue... well from what ive seen now v0.9.9m works well with the 5G ipod at least music wise anyway. thanks for the great tool!

Thanks for the report. Are you using iTunes (6?) as well, and are you using the 4.7/4.8 or 4.9 database format in foo_pod?

iPod only.

Ok guys, I'm truly sorry if this has been answered before, but is there any way to stop those popup windows coming up when I transfer files to my iPod? I can't use my computer without interruptions until it finishes.

Thanks,

nazgulord.

I've gotten lost in the iTunes and firmware upgrade issues with iPod. What will I lose with foo_pod if using the latest iTunes (6) and 4G firmware (1.2).

Thanks!

According to nonchalant, foo_pod seems to work ok with iTunes 6. I haven't even downloaded iTunes 6 yet, so I can't confirm this.

Hi Aero,
yeah im using itunes 6, and the 4.7/4.8 DB format in foo_pod. foo_pod works great from what ive seen so far. a little thing i noticed was with deleting files; i import the ipod into foobar's playlist and choose the "delete" option from the right-click context menu. it still appears in the foobar playlist; i thought it may have been just a screen update issue but its actually still on the ipod. but i can go into itunes 6 and delete it. no biggie though.
thanks!

Is there any chance of getting the ipod ratings to pull off %__rating% (techinfo) the same way copy_portable was modified earlier? This would solve the ratings issues with the sql version of quicktag i *think*.

I used iTunes 6 to load my new Nano. foo_pod had no problem reading the list of files on the Nano, deleting some and adding others.

Given iTunes problems in reading some foobar tags (see my thread on the subject), I'm not likely to go back to iTunes.

Hi everybody , i would like to know if there is a possibility to add video on the ipod video using foo_pod or another software instead of itunes because i don't like itunes at all .
If it doesn't exist yet, will it be possible to add this feature or not ?
It would be great

Now I have a few questions:

Do the g5 ipods work with foo_pod?
Does the 4.8 version of iTunes work with the g5?

The offtopic one:

Is the g5 generation worth getting? as I've
heard people with very split decisions.

Cheers!
>Hoppa<

the ipod vidéo ? yes ot works with foo_pod but not for the video =(

This has been brought up before, and I seem to remember there was a good reason not to make it technical info, as opposed to metadata. But I'll look into it...

Here is my take:

If you have a 3G iPod or earlier and want a color screen or a newer iPod, a 5G iPod is very tempting. They have bigger screens than the iPod Photos and are significantly thinner. I have seen the video playback, and it looks pretty nice. I wouldn't necessarily buy the overpriced iTunes Video Store movies/videos, but it is pretty easy to transcode your own video content.

But here is why I won't buy one...

4G and iPod Photo users have been left out in the cold by Apple's horrible firmware support. It is bad enough that updates have all but stopped for older iPods (this is nothing new, as owners of 3G and older models can attest), but to stop releasing updates after the disasterous last release is intolerable. I wouldn't even consider upgrading until Apple at least releases usable firmware for the older iPods.

There are also some technical things that don't sit well with me, like the lack of Firewire support and omission of the headphone accessory jack. And to be completely petty, the position of the headphone jack off-center just seems wrong to me.

I think the next iPod will be the one to watch - it seems like Apple rushed the 5G out so they could get into the video market. If Apple can fix some of the issues and provides even minimal support for older iPods, I'd consider a 5G+ iPod. But until then, I'm not really interested.

Aero,

As a 4G owner I agree with your sentiments. And while I have thanked you before, I want to say thank you again for foo_pod. It's truly been indispensable!

As many are probably already aware there is good progress being made in porting Rockbox to the iPod. I look forward to being able to play Ogg Vorbis and many other formats on my player. Let's hope it happens sooner rather than later.

Cheers,
Pete

How about support of Motorola E1 ROKR?
ITunesDB is almost the same except a few changes
If you interesting in it I can send you more info

Do you have more information on this? A URL or something?

Thanks,
Brian

Here you go Brian: RockBox (iPod)

There is some more info in their forum as well.

Cheers,
Pete

I alreday I open a thread about this problem, but i'm afraid I opened it in the wrong place since this problem concering foo_pod and foo_pod alone.
So i'm going to reask the question here.

I have a strange problem when i'm trying to copy AAC files (VBR, Replay Gain) into the ipod.
I select all the files I want and then send them with the foo_pod menu.
When I refresh my ipod songs list (again, using foo_pod) I can see the song are copied.
But then, when i'm unpluging my ipod(ejecting it with foo_pod), some song will not be in the ipod itself, even though I saw it on foobar.

If I try to REcopy the files, it work 99% of the time, but in every copy I lose some files this way.

Maybe Itunes need to be open for foo_pod to work? or is it standalone? anyone famlier with this problem?