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Sgt_Strider
This is really messed up, I tried all methods including detection A and secure for accuracy and only the first track of every single CD has some number (0:00:02.00). For all other tracks, they're displayed as 0:00:00.00 for all of my CD's. This is really messed up...I was wondering does the gap detection have anything to do with quality? I want to rip my music from the CD's bit for bit and IIRC, it can affect it? How can I fix this problem? Thx

Btw my drive is a Liteon 52246S.
westgroveg
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I want to rip my music from the CD's bit for bit

Gap detection is not necessary for bit-exact copy's, if you want each track to be bit-exact & keep gap info you can, detect gaps, tick leave out gaps & create a CUE sheet (with left out gaps) which will store the gap info.

Ideally gap info would be stored in tags, the decoder/player would need to be aware & this way you could select to playback with or without gaps.

Also keep in mind that EAC's gap detection accuracy is questionable, your best shot at getting accurate gaps is method A, secure. Contrary to what Andre has said & has been written in a popular EAC guide, I can tell you gap detection methods do vary in accuracy & A was the most precise in all 5 drives I have tested.

I like the idea of the accurate rip database but I predict it will be not very useful because,

1. Lack of software support, verifiable albums will continue because,
2. Disc must be flawless (very rare) or extraction software must have accurate error recovery (also very rare)
3. Drives must overread into the corresponding offset which is very rare.
dewey1973
How many CDs are you talking about? It's possible that you only have gap-less CDs. A lot of modern CDs are gap-less.
Sgt_Strider
All my CD's...Linkin Park, Eminem, Christina Aguilera, and etc. All tracks have 0's while the first track of each CD is 2, like stated above in my post. Is this correct though? If it's true, then I have nothing to worry about. Thx
dewey1973
QUOTE(Sgt_Strider @ Mar 2 2004, 03:06 PM)
All my CD's...Linkin Park, Eminem, Christina Aguilera, and etc. All tracks have 0's while the first track of each CD is 2, like stated above in my post. Is this correct though? If it's true, then I have nothing to worry about. Thx

I know that Linkin Park CDs are gap-less and therefore the results you got would be correct.

Most CDs will have a 0:00:02.00 or 0:00:02.42 gap before the first track. I think it's part of the audio CD standard. That's why I test the tracks for silence by hitting F3. If the track 1 pre-gap is 0:00:02.00 it will say "No Gap." If it is 0:00:02.42 it is usually 100% silence. It is the cases when it is not 100% that I pay more attention. I extract the track twice, once with the gap appended to the "next track" and once with it appended to the "previous track." Then I compare the two to see if there was anything in the pre-gap that I'd like to keep.
Sgt_Strider
QUOTE(westgroveg @ Mar 2 2004, 05:19 AM)
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I want to rip my music from the CD's bit for bit

Gap detection is not necessary for bit-exact copy's, if you want each track to be bit-exact & keep gap info you can, detect gaps, tick leave out gaps & create a CUE sheet (with left out gaps) which will store the gap info.

Ideally gap info would be stored in tags, the decoder/player would need to be aware & this way you could select to playback with or without gaps.

Also keep in mind that EAC's gap detection accuracy is questionable, your best shot at getting accurate gaps is method A, secure. Contrary to what Andre has said & has been written in a popular EAC guide, I can tell you gap detection methods do vary in accuracy & A was the most precise in all 5 drives I have tested.

I like the idea of the accurate rip database but I predict it will be not very useful because,

1. Lack of software support, verifiable albums will continue because,
2. Disc must be flawless (very rare) or extraction software must have accurate error recovery (also very rare)
3. Drives must overread into the corresponding offset which is very rare.

How would I do that, if I only rip out individual tracks. A .cue file would be useless for me. Leaving out the gaps would not make it bit for bit perfect right?
liekloo
QUOTE(westgroveg @ Mar 2 2004, 06:19 AM)
Gap detection is not necessary for bit-exact copy's, if you want each track to be bit-exact & keep gap info you can, detect gaps, tick leave out gaps & create a CUE sheet (with left out gaps) which will store the gap info.

That way the gaps will be left out (so you lose them). I usually recommend to just create a normal cue sheet ('wavs with gaps'). And do no other 'special' things.
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