Hadda this Foopilot One skin is AMAZING!! I love the mouse guestures instead of the winamp-style 20-button skins. It's so nice and simple yet it lets you do anything you want! I'd love to be able to change the font size on the playlist (or change the size of the playlist window) but other than that I can't think of a better skin!

Thanks for extending the functionality of foobar with this great skin.

Nic

Hi. Big thanks .

Foopilot now is stock becouse i do not have much time letely.Graphical instruction and new version is almost finished. I waiting for new graphics from Berro for new simply old buttons and new graphics for colums_ui buttons with foopilot style. Then i will make new thread of foopilot finall. So everyone who like foopilot just wait two weeks. Now i do not planing to make in PL columns or v-resize.
But first i develop instruction next week in this thread.


Regards all Hadda

Thanks for all the work you both have put in this Hadda! I will be looking forward to what you guys will be cooking up.

Foo Pilot is indeed amazing.

Does anyone know what the status of foo_looks is? Is there any continuing development? Is the developer still around? With the main sites ethier down or not updated in a year, I begin to wonder what its future will hold....? Does anyone have the source to it?

Foobar and its components are amazing, but there is a large amount of disorginization in this community. The "offical" plugin site is not linked to anywhere on the main foobar page, and is missing many components. Why must I search through 30 page forum threads for something like this?

This was brought up in previous threads, and most of us agreed that the developer has pretty much left this project. The future of foo_looks isnt all that bright with very few skin developers apart from Hadda. Atm there is a new plugin which from memory i think is called gfx, a skinning plugin which you may want to give a try. I however will stick to Hadda's all too functional graphite skin
Thanks Hadda for all the work you put into your skins. Its only when u attempt to make one that u realise how difficult it really is .

Ed

Oh I agree, I will stick with Hadda's amazing skin as well, but its sad that Foo_looks is dead, thanks for confirming what I had already thought.

When will a fully functional, skinnable interface replacement be made? The world may never know.

Question

it is possible to copy value, for exemple

fb2k_formatTitle(fb2k_playlistGetFocus(),"%artist%",)

to CLIPBOARD ?

thanks

I do not trayed this but maybe this will work :
Thi will do not what You wont but copy selected song(s) info to clipard


This only copy selected song(s) info not only artist. Maybe you should run from foobar something like this:

But i do not know how from comand line copy text to the clipboard. So if You will know just replace copy_to_clipard maybe will work.

Sorry all for late with instruction and update thah i promised. I have so much work and i must lern so many thinks in my work. I waiting for little breathe to write part of code to skin.

Regards
Hadda

So this is only work instructions (not oficial even alpha ) but you can discover some functional. Sory for my english but i write it so fast. This instruction is for dual foopilot one.


1) MAIN KEY

This key offers many functions and can even be configured to offer more. For now and in the original configuration this key provides the

following functions:

(Please note that you can cancel all function calls by clicking the other mouse button - as long as the mouse button calling the function is

still pressed.)

LMB = Left Mouse Button
RMB = Right Mouse Button


a) [LMB single click]
(L) Play

b) [RMB single click]
® Pause on/off

c) [LMB double click]
(D) Stop

d) [LMB click, drag right short, release]
(L->) Play next

e) [LMB click, drag left short, release]
(<-L) Play previous

f) [LMB click, drag right long, release]
(L- ->) Jump next (5 tracks)

g) [LMB click, drag left long, release]
(<- -L) Jump previous (5 tracks)

h) [LMB click, drag upward, release]
(L ^|^) Show foobar preferences ('hide' not implemeted yet)

i) [LMB click, drag downward, release]
(L v|v) Show/Hide foobar main window

j) [RMB click, drag upward, release]
(R ^|^) Show foobar equalizer

k) [RMB click, drag downward, release]
(R v|v) Close foobar

l) Mouse wheel
(W) can be used to change volume.

m) [RMB click, drag right short, release]
(R ->) Next album (next directory when album is unknown)

m) [RMB click, drag left short, release]
(<--R) Previous album (previous directory when album is unknown)

n) [LMB click, drag downward long, release]
(L v|vv) open file

o) [LMB click, drag downward super long, release]
(L v|vvv) open CD

p) [LMB click, drag right super long, release]
(L- - ->) random

Both buttons can be configured by editing "!ok_phone_tweak.cfg". For now (R->) (R- ->) (<-R) (<- -R) are unused and can be configured to

fullfil one of the implemented functions. All button functions can be changed (except for a),b) and c)), but only for now. This config offer

more than basic functions (like next in history ).

2) VOLUME AREA

a) (LMB click) Change volume

b) (LMB double click) Change volume fast (ignores foobar buffer; may cause some static)

d) (RMB click) Mute / Unmute (this mute ignores foobar buffer too)

e) (Wheel rotate) Volume up/down

3) DISPLAY AND PROGRESS BAR

a) (LMB click) Jump within the song playing

b) (RMB click) Show/hide extended infos

4) DRAG BUTTON

The drag button can be used to move Foopilot One (FO) or to (de-)activate its 'auto hide mode'. In 'auto hide mode' it will hide itself when

a different window is focussed and unhide when you move the mouse cursor over the general area of the player.

a) (LMB click, drag) Move FO

b) (RMB click) Hide mode on/off

c) (Wheel rotate) this will change graphical mode (from blue to graphit and back) [this future is allowed from RC1 not now]

The colour indicates whether the Foopilot One window is focussed or not and whether hide mode (HM) is turned on or off.

(Blue) FO is focussed and HM is off
(Red) FO is focussed and HM is on
(Yellow) FO is not focussed and HM is off
(Grey) FO is not focussed and HM is on (and about to hide)

5) (LMB drag) This area is just drag extended info

6) (LMB click) Open file [in future this will show open menu]

7) (LMB click) Open CD

8) (LMB click) Show playlist

(RMB click) Show list of playlist

(Wheel rotate) next/previous playlist

9) (LMB click) show info about played song and set it on focus

(RMB click) show info about focused song

10) (RMB/LMB click) change order

(Wheel rotate) next/previous order

11) (LMB click) about info

12) (LMB click) minimize playlist to 9 position (or another info)

13) (LMB click) maximize playlist up to size playlist or screen size or 80 positions (max allowed)

14) (LMB click) hide playlist (or next info)

15) (LMB click) go to position

(RMB click) go to focused

(Double LMB click) go to now playing

16) (LMB click) file info (and set focused)

(RMB click) big art info

(when you relese button back to playlist)

17) (LMB click) set focused

(RMB click) context menu

(Double LMB click) play this song

18) (Double LMB click) swith big art to small and back

(Wheel rotate) next/previous image in directory

19) (Double LMB click / RMB click) conext menu

20) streach playlist
(this button will have diode and can will switch playlist style. In this area will be alowed to see hidding mode about playlist independent

from main bar and olso playlist can be glued to main bar)

Playlist and main bar have basic keyboard support
[F3/j] search
[arrows] go up or down
[relese arrow and then push space and hold] go up continued (this way is becouse foo_looks don't allow do this simpler)
[enter] play focused
[i/shift+i] info/big info

Does anybody know how to change the number of bands on the spectrum sprite after its initial declaration?

I have a little script on a skin I'm changing around that moves and resizes the spectrum given a certain event, but I also want to change the value of "int bands" from 10 to 20.

sprite declaration (from memory, so I don't remember the location numbers):

sprite spectrum
list rect { ... }
list srcoff int { ... }
int bands 10


and then the script that is called on the window event:

look_setVisible(spectrum,false)
look_setEnabled(spectrum,false)
look_setX(spectrum, ...)
look_setY(spectrum, ...)
look_setWidth(spectrum, ...)
look_setHeight(spectrum, ...)
look_setEnabled(spectrum,true)
look_setVisible(spectrum,true)


There is no "setBands()" mutator or "setValue(sprite,valName,newVal)" or anything like that in foo_looks as far as I know, and I can't simply create another sprite, it won't work without the reserved name "spectrum," so I'm out of ideas. If anybody knows what else I can try, it'd be helpful :)

Thanks.

@jhupton:
You can define two differend sprites with 20 and 10 bands value. In your script you can just switch betwean this sprites (hide 10 and show 20 and back)

Hadda...

I'm not sure I understand. Unless the sprite is called "spectrum" it won't display the visualization, and I can't have two sprites with the same name, it'll just be a redeclaration of the first. Unless there's some way to get the spectrum to display without using the "spectrum" sprite name, and I just don't know about it.

@jhupton:

mhm I did not used any time spectrum. But this problem can be solved (if name is importand) by call next skin in script. If your code is not complicated . Make secound skin with differend spectrum and run it when you wont to change spectrum.
in your skin with spectrum 10 use comand:
and in same place in spectrum 20 use this with spectrum 10.

I'm using this trick in my skin. If you wont to save some varibles this can be more complicated. (I'm using for it create playlist with interesting values, this playlist have key (for example "val##:" in name and rest values), when next skin is loading searching in playlists this key, change values and delete playlist.)

I'd like to see a skin like this.
Nice amount of info (what's playing, what's next, what just played.)
Gives the file info (rate, type, size, length)
Ability to rate on a 1-5 scale if you want.
The playback control is clear (to me anyway).

Very nice project. Simply ane can be atractive to many users. I like idea od next plaing and previous with little cover arts.

Whoops, I bumped the old thread before seeing that a new one was started -.-;

Erm, anyone have a valid URL to this?

man its been a while since anything has happened in the foo_looks department.
I have a feeling development has (finally) ceased, although im not sure what Hadda is up to atm. You'd be hardpressed to find many working links for foo_look skins (except for hadda's or course)
Hadda if your still around..are you still creating skins??
If only we could find a new developer for this....its a shame this is going to waste

Yes i'm still here. I have no time to write next part of skin. But i still planing to finish work. Be patient.

First of all, I really love what foo_looks+foopilot does to foobar. Great work!

One thing I miss in foopilot is to be able to set hide mode on as default, I guess that it's possible to change one of the configfiles to do that but that's how long it goes. If someone feel they have some time to help me I would be really happy!

Thanks.

Try edit files : !ok_phone_tweak.cfg and !ok_phone_tweak_2.cfg to change conf.
But newest version of foopilot one remember last configuration.

is Foo_looks support v0.9beta yet??

The developer, danZ , was last active on the 7th of July 2004 at 01:03 PM...

For short:
foo_looks is dead.

To my knowledge, he never released the source.

Gah, damn. Anyone managed to contact him?

foo_looks doesn't work with foobar 0.9 ???
Then I'll have to stay with foobar 0.8.3 till the end of days.

I think i can live with 0.8.3, BUT I CAN'T LIVE WITHOUT FOO_LOOKS - my daily inspiration.

;( ;( ;(
I'm thinking about independent foopilot plugin.

@hadda: I know I won't upgrade to foopilot's new version unless I am able to get your skins on it

I've just installed Foobar 0.9 beta6, and damn just after I've found out about Foopilot That's not fair, I want that ^^

/me is gonna do some incantations for the dev of the indepedent foo_pilot plugin...

Oh, and now I'll be able to promote foobar2000 with the "It has a wonderful skin" ^^

Foopilot is absolute genius. Now if I could only see my playlist tree without opening the main Foobar window....

[edit] Cracked it. I needed the dual look fix.

Hi Hadda.

I downloaded dual foopilot one but dont see the little buttons at the top of the playlist. Have I done something wrong?

Anyway I can prevent the Foopilot playlist from dissapearing as soon as my mouse leaves the top of the screen?

You should read a little bit more carefully the home page of Foopilot. To see your play list, right click on the middle part of the Foopilot bar. To prevent Foopilot from disapearing, right click on the little sphere at the right of the bar. And take the time to read the popups when you point at an element :
L : left click
R : right click
D : double click (left)
W : wheel
< L or R > : maintain the click and drag it left, right, top or bottom

If you want to cancel a clic (Right or Left), clic on the opposite button...

Thanks. I know about that. The problem is with dual look. With single look the playlist only dissapears when the mouse pointer leaves is. With dual look the playlist dissapears as soon as the mouse pointer leaves the top edge of the screen.

I know it is a bug in dual look. Not fixed from time that i left writting foopilot. Now i do not see sens of writting it. Only in writting plugin. Anyway thanks for all good words. I wish that i find power to write this plug.

I hope you do. Your work has been excellent since the first.
And actually, I still like your first effort.

Thanks!

Hadda, first of all, thank you for foo_pilot, it's a beauty. I probably wouldn't have been using foobar at all if it wasn't for this look.

One thing that I would like to suggest is changing the mouse wheel function when hoovering over the time bar. As it is now, it's a next/prev function, which already exists in another form ( <-L-> on the left part of the bar )
How about changing this into "seek back/forward" ( 5 sec or something ) ? I think it would be a great addition to the functionality of foopilot.

Also, good luck on making foopilot independent ( if you haven't given up that is )

Uh, and I don't seem to be able to install FooPilot. I unzip it to C:\Program Files\foobar2000\components\ yet I don't have it in my components list:

Check under "Look" in the list.

I think this is just me

but i'm really confused on the whole Foolooks and Foo pilot thing

.....

i extracted foolooks to the components directory and everything and then i went to the site about how to install foopilot and it talks about copying a Foo_looks.dll file into the Foo_lookpl.dll but i don't (or can't find) the Foo_lookpl.dll file anywhere!

ANy help much appreciated!

You need two foo_looks files. This files is the same but with different names. simply way is copy file somewere and change name and then copy to the destination dir. You don't need Foo_lookpl.dll only Foo_looks.dll

Hi, sorry if this is in the wrong place but it deals with the last few posts. I'm trying to install foopilot, I have foo looks working fine. I downloaded a couple of different versions of foopilot, extracted the file straight to components dir, and try to load the .ski file in the main components dir that relates to foopilot. But I just end up getting a long string of errors. What am I doing wrong? Thank you for your assistance


and it goes on and on to line 225 or something like that

Not quite sure what I am doing wrong, any ideas?

I thing that Foo_looks do not see rest of files. maybe you extract only one file.

Dear Foopilot programmer,

I really appreciate your effort on Foopilot, but I miss the version that had buttons. This mouse gestures thing is really not for everyone, it's kind of annoying to do on laptops for example, and it's not like the interface is so small that it saves space by having no buttons.

I really like the original foopilot which had a few buttons, I have been using it along with the stop button mod you told me about. Just wondering if you will ever work on that again, it would be great if it could be thinner vertically, and even shrinkable horizontally too.

Thanks much,
l12

P.S. Also, for people who don't know about that version, is it still downloadable anywhere? I could put it up somewhere if not, it was a very nice skin and I'm sorry to see it disappear.

any chance somebody wants to help me fix the carbon skin so that right clicking on the x button would close foobar?

this is for me only, i wont rerelease this skin or w/e

l12 please post it and any other foopilot skins you may have

maybe an archive of old foopilot skins could be added?

I have some skins mirrored here
And have you tried this carbon script?

i can't see any of the buttons

also how do i configure it to has it start at 0.00 instead of -0.00

for carbon 2.0

i like black better also heh

thank you dano for foolooks. i think your effort has not been recognised or appreciated enough in the fb2k community. i hope you will take the time and effort to port it to 0.9 once sdk is available.
thanks again