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menno
Ahead Software Showcases Major Enhancement to Nero Digital with AVC/H264 and MPEG-4 Parametric Stereo Extensions in High Efficiency AAC at NAB 2004

Of course everybody is invited to visit us at NAB, to meet some of the people behind Nero Digital.

Menno
Jebus
sounds cool... what is parametric stereo and how does it compare to joint and/or intensity stereo?
menno
Parametric stereo basically encodes the file as mono (HE AAC) and stores some parameters in the bitstream to restore the stereo image in the decoder. Giving a bitrate saving of around 33% over normal stereo HE AAC.

Menno
Sebastian Mares
Is it a lossless process like Mid/Side stereo coding, or is it like Intensity Stereo?
menno
QUOTE(Sebastian Mares @ Apr 19 2004, 06:38 PM)
Is it a lossless process like Mid/Side stereo coding, or is it like Intensity Stereo?

It's more like IS, but definately not the same smile.gif

Menno
rpop
Ah, sounds cool smile.gif Who's gonna be there? Will the HA admins be there like they were at the IBC last year?
menno
QUOTE(rpop @ Apr 19 2004, 07:12 PM)
Ah,  sounds cool smile.gif Who's gonna be there? Will the HA admins be there like they were at the IBC last year?

Ivan, JohnV, me and some men in suit biggrin.gif

Menno
rjamorim
QUOTE(menno @ Apr 19 2004, 03:28 PM)
Ivan, JohnV, me and some men in suit biggrin.gif

I want picz!!! biggrin.gif
M
QUOTE(menno @ Apr 19 2004, 01:28 PM)
Ivan, JohnV, me and some men in suit biggrin.gif

... but not what's-her-name? crying.gif

- M.
rjamorim
Alexandra.

Ivan must be feeling lonely rolleyes.gif
dreamliner77
I propose HA start hosting it's own convention...

*edit: Spelling to satisfy Digga
Digga
QUOTE(dreamliner77 @ Apr 19 2004, 08:26 PM)
I propose HA start hosting it's own converntion...

converntions are more for the hardcore special type of thing you know what I mean nudge nudge get the idea know what I mean people laugh.gif
I would propose a convention instead wink.gif biggrin.gif
dreamliner77
So I made a freakin' typo. Kill me...
rc55
Can I come?

PM please! wink.gif

Ruairi
rpop
heh, hoping again to get a box of Ahead cigarettes/candy? smile.gif
JohnV
QUOTE(rc55 @ Apr 20 2004, 12:25 AM)
Can I come?

PM please! wink.gif

Ruairi

What can you come? Of course you can come to Vegas. smile.gif
But it's a looooong flight and there are probably hardly any hotel rooms left.
xmixahlx
hotel rooms?
you are planning to sleep in vegas ???

that's what all the oxygen is pumped in for!


...ninnies
askoff
When can we use those features?
Kaleb.G
That's what I'm wondering. I was waiting for some big Nero Digital update to begin my huge encoding spree, and this seems to fit the bill.

Menno, will this process be used for only dual-channel audio, or will it be used for multiple, or all channels?

Anyway, this sounds great! biggrin.gif
rjamorim
QUOTE(Kaleb.G @ Apr 22 2004, 09:57 PM)
Menno, will this process be used for only dual-channel audio, or will it be used for multiple, or all channels?

The process for multichannel is still being standardized.
Kaleb.G
QUOTE(rjamorim @ Apr 22 2004, 06:58 PM)
QUOTE(Kaleb.G @ Apr 22 2004, 09:57 PM)
Menno, will this process be used for only dual-channel audio, or will it be used for multiple, or all channels?

The process for multichannel is still being standardized.

Okay. Thanks, Roberto. smile.gif
Kaleb.G
So, how'd the show go? Anybody take any pictures? cool.gif
toke
QUOTE(rjamorim @ Apr 22 2004, 05:58 PM)
QUOTE(Kaleb.G @ Apr 22 2004, 09:57 PM)
Menno, will this process be used for only dual-channel audio, or will it be used for multiple, or all channels?

The process for multichannel is still being standardized.

Although parametric multichannel extension might not be so efficient, because at least in 5.1-movies the content of diffrent channels varies greatly compared to each other.
21_already
This may be inane, but how long does it usually take between standardisation and a consumer product? Wasn't HE-AAC in Nero about like 9 months after ratification? Would we need to wait for 'FAAD3' for a free decoder for something like that?

Can you tell i've got ants in my pants for this tech. tongue.gif

P.S. AC3 throws in the range of 384kbps at 5.1 regardless of whether or not much sound is actually being made in the back let alone if it's similar to front channels (i think - someone should correct me on this). Could P.S. multichannel do better? if it's coding channel differences (in a way i have no clue about) then like toke said, could it actually do much better? Then again, it's not like you've got 5.1 X mono audio tracks completely independant of each other.
t.g.deck
AFAIK not parametric but spatial is the mode that's meant for use with multi-channel in AAC.

See also here.
toke
In movie soundtracks dialog is usually at center, music uses also L&R and atmosphere&effects also rear channels. So this "parametric spatial" could be efficient mainly with music&effects. That's an advance anyway...
kcramer
Menno, any chance we would ever see a Mac OS X version available? It seems like there is a lot of interesting development going on in Nero AAC but us non-Windows users cannot take advantage of it. I would be interested in a Mac OS X command line encoder if the price wasn't too high!
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