I'm very new to ogg, so correct me if I'm wrong. The next release will be RC4, so about when will v1.0 be out, are we talking years? In some weeks I'm on the mission to start encoding parts of my friends cd collection (around 500 cds or so) and he wants it done in ogg. It'd be nice to use the best quality version around. How could I use the latest binaries in OggdropXPd? There seems to be now way to choose an external new compile from within the proggie. There should be some sticky in the Ogg forum like In the Lame forum with a guide with URLs to programs and compiles.

The whole ogg thing seems alotmore messy than LAME that I've been used to before. Just getting a decoder to be able to play ogg files in winamp was hard. Vorbis.com just had a link to winamp.com and winamp.com just seem to host "Ogg Vorbis Encoder" now. At last i found something working at http://www.blorp.com/~peter/ . Hope things will get less messy with time, otherwise I don't expect Joe Smith to start using OGG instead of Mp3.

I've also tried enter the chat here at this site, but with no luck, all I get is an empty window with a "There have been no posts in the last 30 days in this forum." message. I've tried connecting thru mIRC, an EFnet server #project_mayhem. I got into the channel a few days ago but nobody seemed to see what i was writing. Now the channel seems empty.

Another thing that'd be good is if you could do searches with less characters in on this site. Probably I'd had the answer to at least my first question if i was able to do a search for:
RC4 v1.0
in the Ogg Vorbis forum, but i just get a "The search term you specified (rc4) is under the minimum word length (4)".

Hmm... Sorry if I seem a bit confused, I'll blame it on not having much sleep tonight.

/Mikael
Sorry if my English ain't the best...

I meant "Another thing that'd be good is if you could do searches with MORE characters in on this site." Guess you've already figured:rolleyes:

"Another thing that'd be good is if you could do searches with less characters in on this site."

If your search string contains less than the required characters place an asterisk * after your search word.

Examples:

ogg*
rc4*

I wouldn't use the latest binaries. Take a look here http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/showth...=&threadid=2204

the project_mayhem channel is on openprojects network.
There's alway very helpful ppl there.
Also for ogg specific help you can go to #vorbis. Also on openprojects network.

There were implications in the vorbis channel yesterday that 1.0 should follow RC4 very fast, and that the release of 1.0 is to happen before a (secret) deadline. So, it won't be that long.



Use the latest released version, not the state-of-the-art-but-not-quite-working versions.



Huh? The latest WinAMP (2.80) plays Vorbis by default, without the need for extra plugins...



The channel is on the OpenProjects network. Try irc.openprojects.net, eu.openprojects.net, us.openprojects.net, etc...

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Just use Winamp 2.80 and you will have the Vorbis Input Plugin installed by default. Version 2.80 also corrects a serious security issue with the minibrowser.



Of course it's not implemented for easy use yet, as mp3 is (can be used in all programs/utilities that handles sound). Vorbis has not been on the net for a long time and remember the encoder is not even final.

Thanks everyone for your help! If I've understood things right OGG support is only in standard version, not lite. I always install winamp lite as i don't want things on my computer I wont use (like Winamp Visualization Studio, included in standard version).

Okay, so I'd be safe using the latest OggdropXPd, should it always feature the "the latest released version, not the state-of-the-art-but-not-quite-working version"? Or are there any RazorLame look-a-like frontends that I'm more than used to for OGG?

Will alot be done to improve the quality of higher bitrates in RC4/v1.0 or is it mostly the low bitrates that are being tweaked? I think I'll be using quality setting 5.47 ie. 175 kbps for his albums. I'm/he is used to LAME --alt-preset standard encodings & have no problem with that quality. Will 175 be somewhere near for ogg or is it overkill?

/Mikael

try oggifier by speek. its great

cheers, tonderai

Speaking of implementations, SoundForge 5.0 has ogg in it, and seems to work with rc3+ files.
Just a shame that it decodes the whole file and then operates on it, and resaves by complete re-encoding.
How hard would it rock if it was able to do segmented re-encoding... only re-encoding and splicing in the bits that had changes. Ahh, what a dream.

gnoshi =)

I have really good ogg support with the programs I use for audio, under linux.
Burning to Cd etc are all easy. It would be great to see the same kind of support in windows, it would make the format heaps more popular.