Jan S.
Jun 10 2002, 10:42
I have a newly burned cdr that I'm trying to rip with EAC but it seems like it's full of errors.
Even though EAC is able to correct all of them (it seems, the rip is not finished) I get the wonderful speed of 0.1x instead of 2-3x that I usually get and many errors are reported and corrected.
What can cause this?
I just installed the new ASPI, I hope that doesn't have anything to do with it.
Tinribs
Jun 10 2002, 10:46
on a similar note I have a cd that so far seems unrippable, The Beatles- One, its not protected, is in perfect condition and yet it defies any cd player (I've tried it on 5 different ones) Its a pain because its one cd that I really want to back up.
Jan S.
Jun 10 2002, 10:51
I believe the beatles 1 cd is protected.....So I've heard....
I actually have that cd so I might should try to rip it.
From what I have seen, Computer CD drives can really struggle trying to rip audio from a CD-R (as opposed to a CD bought in the shops).
Don't ask me why, it is just an observation from lots of tests with differing discs on lots of drives...
"Beatles - 1" protected? Not the one i had. Ripped fine on two different drives.
Jan: Install ASAPI and rip the CD again with it. It can peacefully co-exist with ASPI. Then you see if it's the new ASPI's fault or not.
http://www.vobsupport.de/Update/ASAPI.exe
Procedure: Install, reboot, select ASAPI in EAC.
Jan S.
Jun 10 2002, 11:15
Thanks Citay.
Will try that.
I did rip other cds after installing the new ASPI though....
About beatles one....I couldn't find any articles about the protection I remember hearing about other than some newbie having trouble with the overburning....And another one that couldn't rip it with clonecd but could with EAC.
Anyway.....I'll look some more....I'm sure I saw it somewhere...
Anyway it seems that if it's protected it's not a very good protection
Jan S.
Jun 10 2002, 11:32
hm.... Still loaded with errors....though ASAPI seems to be a little faster.
Jan S.
Jun 10 2002, 11:34
ok, it seems the beatles 1 cd is protected. It's just not good enough
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http://www.cdfreaks.com/news2.php3?ID=1952
The Beatles \"1\" Cd recently had copy-protection on it that no one really reported. Audiograbber, CloneCd & Disk Dupe all failed to copy the last song (#27 - The Long & Winding Road) without it skipping. I was able to copy, err, pardon me: \"backup\" the Cd utilizing Padus DiscJuggler. Some other people were able to copy, oops: make a backup \"safety\" copy using EAC. Might both of these Cd's be using a simple & easy to bypass \"Illegal TOC\" copy-protection scheme? Post your thoughts please.
Pio2001
Jun 10 2002, 13:46
Your CDR must be either bad quality, or burned too fast.
Which brand is it, and how fast did you burn it, and with which burner ?
Post the ATIP if you can.
Jan S.
Jun 10 2002, 13:50
I didn't burn it myself so all I know is the brand.
it's TDK, cd-r XG for Audio. 80min.
Pio2001
Jun 10 2002, 13:59
Yeeees

!
So it's a CDR burned in a standalone burner.
The problem is well known : standalone burners burn bad data at the very beginning of the first track. EAC slows down to begin the extraction, but doesn't recover the speed after this.
The solution is to skip the bad data. Try to extract the track 1 "by range" (use the "snap track" button to position the end cursor at the end of the track), but skipping sector 1. Or 2 or 3 if it's not enough.
This way EAC will begin the reading on a good part of the CDR.
Jan S.
Jun 10 2002, 14:22
thanks!!!
that worked...
but why doesn't EAC recover the speed?
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Originally posted by Jan S.
but why doesn't EAC recover the speed?
Some drives are probably not able to do so. For example my Plextor speeds up after errors.
Pio2001
Jun 10 2002, 14:55
That's a difficult one....
Try changing the setting "allow speed reduction". It may work in one way or the other.
Jan S.
Jun 10 2002, 14:57
hm...it still find errors on the rest of the cd (in all tracks, atleast the first couple)....speed dropping.
but not as much as before.
Jan S.
Jun 11 2002, 04:29
ok....this is how it went.
it seems ALL tracks start with these bad sectors.
If I skip the first 2 sectors at the start of every track it rips fine. Otherwise it's impossible.
Jan S.
Jun 11 2002, 04:39
heh, your post disappered.
I gave up and tried burst mode.
It seemed some of the last tracks needed too much to be removed.
QUOTE
Thanks, trying that right away.
may I ask why that number?[
Jan S.
Jun 11 2002, 04:44
QUOTE
Try changing the setting \"allow speed reduction\". It may work in one way or the other.
thats already on...it seems it find errors everywhere.
Jan S.
Jun 11 2002, 05:00
Does this relate to the problem you described before? the post that was removed for some reason.
EAC extraction logfile from 11. June 2002, 12:57 for CD
Unknown Artist / Unknown Title
Used drive : HP CD-Writer+ 8200a Adapter: 0 ID: 0
Read mode : Burst
Read offset correction : 0
Overread into Lead-In and Lead-Out : No
Used output format : Internal WAV Routines
44.100 Hz; 16 Bit; Stereo
Other options :
Fill up missing offset samples with silence : Yes
Delete leading and trailing silent blocks : No
Installed external ASPI interface
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Test CRC 813BEA1D
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Test CRC F896EB26
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No errors occured
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