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fallen_angel
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Product page

Juli@'s specs are better than those of the M-Audio Audiphile, it has more features and carries a lower MSRP price tag! Be sure to note the swappable I/O socket. That is certainly a unique feature (you might even say it's a weird idea).

Here are some RMAA results and a comparison with the M-Audio Audiophile.

And here is a couple of screenshots of the driver's Console:

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I'm using the card right now. It's working perfectly and the quality is outstanding!

Whlie you're at it you may want to take a look at the MaXiO 032 and QuataFire 610.
The Quata is a FireWire product and has the same DAC and ADC specs as the Juli@.
dreamliner77
I want one...
tcmjr
QUOTE(dreamliner77 @ May 5 2004, 02:18 PM)
I want one...

i second that
Chun-Yu
QUOTE(tcmjr @ May 5 2004, 05:40 PM)
QUOTE(dreamliner77 @ May 5 2004, 02:18 PM)
I want one...

i second that

Which brings us to the next question: how much does it cost?
Zeb_Smith
QUOTE(Chun-Yu @ May 5 2004, 03:19 PM)
QUOTE(tcmjr @ May 5 2004, 05:40 PM)
QUOTE(dreamliner77 @ May 5 2004, 02:18 PM)
I want one...

i second that

Which brings us to the next question: how much does it cost?

It says in the comparison link...MSRP $179.00
djooky
How does it compare to your old Terratec Aureon Sky? Was the playback sound quality a huge upgrade?
Is it better than the emu 1212m?
David Nordin
The test I've seen shows 1212 being better is all aspects apart from FR, which had little difference. Google for RMAA results.
master
And 1212M cost only $20 more.
dev0
This looks suprisingly similiar to Terratec's Phase 22.
djooky
hmmm, anyone know what kind of digital controller and converters those cards are using?
Audible!
I'd suggest the controller is almost certainly a VIA Envy24 variant with an ESI sticker on it, the converters are anyone's guess.
fallen_angel
The DAC is AKM AK4358 and the ADC is AK5385A. It uses the Envy24HT-S.

If you are wondering what's the reason behind an 8 channel DAC:
http://www.forgotten-realms.cfl.pl/other/t...li@_diagram.jpg

The only similarities between this and the Phase22 result from the fact that both cards have 2 analog I/O, 2 digital I/O and MIDI.

If you want to see a strange similarity take a look at these:
http://productsen.terratec.net/modules/My_...Aureon51USB.jpg
http://www.audiotrak.net/at_library/_produ...n/at_mayaex.jpg

This is not a coincidence nor was there a deal between the two companies and it's not Audiotrak who is doing the ripping off.

The output quality is without a doubt better than on the Aureons; will you notice the difference depends on your equipment and the media you're playing. Audio CDs have a maximum dynamic range of 96dB (dithering only increases the perceived dynamic range) and most consumer amps have SNR around 100-110dB, so the 112dB DAC is already overkill (yeah, other specs come into play too). It's more likely you'll notice a difference compared to the emu 1212m when playing 16bit media, because that card has a -0.35dB drop on the high end (on the output stage).
markanini
Damn it!
I just bought an M-Audio Audiophile 2496.
Think i should sell it and buy this one instead?
JeanLuc
QUOTE(markanini @ May 14 2004, 01:24 PM)
Damn it!
I just bought an M-Audio Audiophile 2496.
Think i should sell it and buy this one instead?

I seriously doubt you will be able to hear a difference between these two soundcards in a blind test ...
flipik
QUOTE(JeanLuc @ May 14 2004, 07:05 AM)
QUOTE(markanini @ May 14 2004, 01:24 PM)
Damn it!
I just bought an M-Audio Audiophile 2496.
Think i should sell it and buy this one instead?

I seriously doubt you will be able to hear a difference between these two soundcards in a blind test ...

brrr, how may I perform blind test on soundcards?
markanini
QUOTE(JeanLuc @ May 14 2004, 07:05 AM)
QUOTE(markanini @ May 14 2004, 01:24 PM)
Damn it!
I just bought an M-Audio Audiophile 2496.
Think i should sell it and buy this one instead?

I seriously doubt you will be able to hear a difference between these two soundcards in a blind test ...

Youre probasbly right, but the driver looks nicer, the audiophile driver is very basic.
drumliner
The comparison link (and in fact all links from forgotten-realms) are already dead. I'd really like to see those if at all possible, thx.
MWP
WOW... i like the idea of the plugin in/out analog module.
Good for DIY'ers.

I would remove it and make my own all spdif in/out module for it.
copperpipe
I didn't see it mentioned on the page, but does anyone know if it supports multiple card sequencing, so you could get 4 ins and 4 outs with 2 cards in 1 computer?
russ
The Audiophile driver is fine for me, I dunno what you want a driver to do, but I just want it to not crash when I hit record...

Nice card, regardless.
master
QUOTE(David Nordin @ May 11 2004, 02:17 AM)
The test I've seen shows 1212 being better is all aspects apart from FR, which had little difference. Google for RMAA results.

An update, saw it over HERE, a user is playing around the EQ if the loss of FR can be recover, and the answer as below:

http://home.netvigator.com/~gbear/rmaa/1820m_eq.htm

While FR is improving, other measurement still remain solid.
fewtch
QUOTE(markanini @ May 14 2004, 06:24 AM)
Damn it!
I just bought an M-Audio Audiophile 2496.
Think i should sell it and buy this one instead?

If for some reason you like the choice of balanced/unbalanced, need or want 192 KHz, particular features/capabilities of the card, etc. then maybe... otherwise like JeanLuc said the sonic differences probably aren't ABX'able. It looks like a mildly intriguing card to me, but nothing groundbreaking.
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