fallen_angel
May 5 2004, 13:24
Product pageJuli@'s specs are better than those of the M-Audio Audiphile, it has more features and carries a lower MSRP price tag! Be sure to note the swappable I/O socket. That is certainly a unique feature (you might even say it's a weird idea).
Here are some
RMAA results and a comparison with the M-Audio Audiophile.
And here is a couple of screenshots of the driver's Console:


I'm using the card right now. It's working perfectly and the quality is outstanding!
Whlie you're at it you may want to take a look at the
MaXiO 032 and
QuataFire 610.
The Quata is a FireWire product and has the same DAC and ADC specs as the Juli@.
dreamliner77
May 5 2004, 16:18
I want one...
QUOTE(dreamliner77 @ May 5 2004, 02:18 PM)
I want one...
i second that
Chun-Yu
May 5 2004, 17:19
QUOTE(tcmjr @ May 5 2004, 05:40 PM)
QUOTE(dreamliner77 @ May 5 2004, 02:18 PM)
I want one...
i second that
Which brings us to the next question: how much does it cost?
Zeb_Smith
May 5 2004, 20:46
QUOTE(Chun-Yu @ May 5 2004, 03:19 PM)
QUOTE(tcmjr @ May 5 2004, 05:40 PM)
QUOTE(dreamliner77 @ May 5 2004, 02:18 PM)
I want one...
i second that
Which brings us to the next question: how much does it cost?
It says in the comparison link...MSRP $179.00
djooky
May 11 2004, 03:05
How does it compare to your old Terratec Aureon Sky? Was the playback sound quality a huge upgrade?
Is it better than the emu 1212m?
David Nordin
May 11 2004, 04:17
The test I've seen shows 1212 being better is all aspects apart from FR, which had little difference. Google for RMAA results.
master
May 11 2004, 05:29
And 1212M cost only $20 more.
This looks suprisingly similiar to Terratec's
Phase 22.
djooky
May 11 2004, 06:22
hmmm, anyone know what kind of digital controller and converters those cards are using?
Audible!
May 11 2004, 15:28
I'd suggest the controller is almost certainly a VIA Envy24 variant with an ESI sticker on it, the converters are anyone's guess.
fallen_angel
May 13 2004, 08:41
The DAC is AKM AK4358 and the ADC is AK5385A. It uses the Envy24HT-S.
If you are wondering what's the reason behind an 8 channel DAC:
http://www.forgotten-realms.cfl.pl/other/t...li@_diagram.jpgThe only similarities between this and the Phase22 result from the fact that both cards have 2 analog I/O, 2 digital I/O and MIDI.
If you want to see a strange similarity take a look at these:
http://productsen.terratec.net/modules/My_...Aureon51USB.jpghttp://www.audiotrak.net/at_library/_produ...n/at_mayaex.jpgThis is not a coincidence nor was there a deal between the two companies and it's not Audiotrak who is doing the ripping off.
The output quality is without a doubt better than on the Aureons; will you notice the difference depends on your equipment and the media you're playing. Audio CDs have a maximum dynamic range of 96dB (dithering only increases the perceived dynamic range) and most consumer amps have SNR around 100-110dB, so the 112dB DAC is already overkill (yeah, other specs come into play too). It's more likely you'll notice a difference compared to the emu 1212m when playing 16bit media, because that card has a -0.35dB drop on the high end (on the output stage).
markanini
May 14 2004, 07:24
Damn it!
I just bought an M-Audio Audiophile 2496.
Think i should sell it and buy this one instead?
JeanLuc
May 14 2004, 09:05
QUOTE(markanini @ May 14 2004, 01:24 PM)
Damn it!
I just bought an M-Audio Audiophile 2496.
Think i should sell it and buy this one instead?
I seriously doubt you will be able to hear a difference between these two soundcards in a blind test ...
flipik
May 14 2004, 10:07
QUOTE(JeanLuc @ May 14 2004, 07:05 AM)
QUOTE(markanini @ May 14 2004, 01:24 PM)
Damn it!
I just bought an M-Audio Audiophile 2496.
Think i should sell it and buy this one instead?
I seriously doubt you will be able to hear a difference between these two soundcards in a blind test ...
brrr, how may I perform blind test on soundcards?
markanini
May 14 2004, 10:19
QUOTE(JeanLuc @ May 14 2004, 07:05 AM)
QUOTE(markanini @ May 14 2004, 01:24 PM)
Damn it!
I just bought an M-Audio Audiophile 2496.
Think i should sell it and buy this one instead?
I seriously doubt you will be able to hear a difference between these two soundcards in a blind test ...
Youre probasbly right, but the driver looks nicer, the audiophile driver is very basic.
drumliner
May 23 2004, 17:30
The comparison link (and in fact all links from forgotten-realms) are already dead. I'd really like to see those if at all possible, thx.
WOW... i like the idea of the plugin in/out analog module.
Good for DIY'ers.
I would remove it and make my own all spdif in/out module for it.
copperpipe
May 24 2004, 00:36
I didn't see it mentioned on the page, but does anyone know if it supports multiple card sequencing, so you could get 4 ins and 4 outs with 2 cards in 1 computer?
The Audiophile driver is fine for me, I dunno what you want a driver to do, but I just want it to not crash when I hit record...
Nice card, regardless.
master
Jun 11 2004, 09:00
QUOTE(David Nordin @ May 11 2004, 02:17 AM)
The test I've seen shows 1212 being better is all aspects apart from FR, which had little difference. Google for RMAA results.
An update, saw it over
HERE, a user is playing around the EQ if the loss of FR can be recover, and the answer as below:
http://home.netvigator.com/~gbear/rmaa/1820m_eq.htmWhile FR is improving, other measurement still remain solid.
fewtch
Jun 11 2004, 10:36
QUOTE(markanini @ May 14 2004, 06:24 AM)
Damn it!
I just bought an M-Audio Audiophile 2496.
Think i should sell it and buy this one instead?
If for some reason you like the choice of balanced/unbalanced, need or want 192 KHz, particular features/capabilities of the card, etc. then maybe... otherwise like JeanLuc said the sonic differences probably aren't ABX'able. It looks like a mildly intriguing card to me, but nothing groundbreaking.
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