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robUx4
I was just looking at how TTA compared to other lossless codec and found that they have released version 3.0 today with source code and many binaries.

Here is what the site says :
  • fixed compression mode for HW compatibility;
  • more faster in operation speed;
  • precalculated seek map added into the TTA format;
  • can decode files with errors;
  • reduced memory requirements for hardware playback.
They are now hosted on CoreCodec.

http://tta.corecodec.org/?menu=download
Digga
QUOTE(robUx4 @ May 8 2004, 03:39 PM)
I was just looking at how TTA compared to other lossless codec and found that they have released version 3.0 today with source code and many binaries.

To my knowledge v3.0 has been available at least since sunday... wink.gif
tcmjr
Yeah , its been out for while
robUx4
OK, my bad, it was released one month ago !
So it would be nice to have it in comparison charts biggrin.gif

BTW, like Wavpack it seems a good candidate for Matroska : fast and small.
rjamorim
QUOTE(robUx4 @ May 8 2004, 12:33 PM)
BTW, like Wavpack it seems a good candidate for Matroska : fast and small.

But no lossy mode, let alone hybrid wink.gif

Also, is it block based?
BetaBoy
Alexander, Pavel, CoreCodec and myself have kept this kind of quite. In my case I wanted ppl, to get a feel for for TTA and do some comparisons. Especially the HA Crew. But, now that TTA is moving towards and getting hardware support I am sure you will see these comparisions becoming more apparent. This is only TTA's forth release ever (iirc) and I am simply amazed and the their code, the professionalism in their presentation and documentation as well as the improvements that they have mentioned as coming.

This is why I chose it to be hosted on CoreCodec.
robUx4
QUOTE(rjamorim @ May 8 2004, 04:38 PM)
QUOTE(robUx4 @ May 8 2004, 12:33 PM)
BTW, like Wavpack it seems a good candidate for Matroska : fast and small.

But no lossy mode, let alone hybrid wink.gif

Also, is it block based?

If you want a lossy codec, get a lossy codec wink.gif

Yes it's block based. The block size is fixed and about 1s long. (which is OK for video interleaving). And it supports even 32 bits floating source / 24 bits audio as well.
rjamorim
QUOTE(robUx4 @ May 8 2004, 12:46 PM)
If you want a lossy codec, get a lossy codec wink.gif

Not if I want correction file happy.gif

QUOTE
And it supports even 32 bits floating source / 24 bits audio as well.


Same thing about WavPack 4.
ald
Sorry for no announcement about TTA 3.0.
Thanks for good words about our project.

As I wrote in another (TTA 2.0) thread - We are waiting for Neuston's firmware release.. It should be already appeared, but still in tests I think. It's our first firmware and we has planned to make an advanced announcement about it. Our code completely tested, but unfortunately last week I have no new information. Anyway we starting our collaboration with a 2 new manufacturers. New TTA supported hardware coming soon.

About lossy mode.. I has studied "dual stream"/hybrid technics.. Looks interesting, but in fact it sounds not better than MP3/OGG/MPC for me, and I think that this format is not conveniently. As about 32bit mode - it's just a tradition support for our codec.. Hardware library does not contain this code.

-- Alexander
robUx4
Is 24 bits supported in hardware ?
Logos
Hey ald, looks like adreses tta@iszf.irk.ru and sasha@iszf.irk.ru dont work (SMTP error). I tried some times, and always "Mail delivery failed" sad.gif(

have you another adress to send questions ?
ald
QUOTE(robUx4 @ May 8 2004, 10:41 AM)
Is 24 bits supported in hardware ?

It's a main of our goals.

At now the player's code has a 24bit files support, but with a resampling to 16bit.
I'm already has ordered a good device for our future tests. Going to made a true 24bit support.

-- Alexander
ald
QUOTE(Logos @ May 8 2004, 08:18 PM)
Hey ald, looks like adreses  tta@iszf.irk.ru and sasha@iszf.irk.ru dont work (SMTP error). I tried some times, and always "Mail delivery failed" sad.gif(

have you another adress to send questions ?

Yes. I have another addresses, but use @iszf.irk.ru only.
You can to use a PM (personal message) service at this site if SMTP errors still present.

-- Alexander
ald
TTA 3.1 with the updated set of plugins is released.

- added -t 'test file' option;
- added support of the WAV files with ID3v2 tags;
- corrected shown bitrate & code cleanup in all of plugins.

I has placed the encoder, hw-player library and a plugins code into the CoreCodec.org CVS server.
C++ encoder/decoder TTA library coming soon.

-- Alexander
Speek
And I did my trick again: a new frontend that supports TTA 3.1 (and older versions).
Get it while it's hot! biggrin.gif
xmixahlx
RW Debian Rep updated, too (with html update! oh joy! hehe)

later
ald
Speek, xmixahlx

Thanks for updates.

-- Alexander
ald
Hi,

QUOTE
I has tried to access the website you've provided but it does not seem to be working..


I think, it's a temporary problems at corecodec.org. We have a local mirror of our project. Please use following links while corecodec.org is not accessible:

TTA homepage address: http://tta.iszf.irk.ru
TTA format description:
http://tta.iszf.irk.ru/index.php?menu=format
Hardware support page:
http://tta.iszf.irk.ru/index.php?menu=hardware
TTA 3.0 comparison results:
http://tta.iszf.irk.ru/index.php?menu=comp

Regards,
-- Alexander
Florian
Alexander,

just wanted to tell you, that my little tagger supports TTA since the latest release.

Best regards,
~ Florian
robUx4
Apparently you're missing MKA support wink.gif
rjamorim
QUOTE(robUx4 @ May 27 2004, 04:47 PM)
Apparently you're missing MKA support wink.gif

Has MKA tagging been standardized at last?

I was under the impression you guys were still compiling a huge list of possible tags that might or might not be bigger than MPEG7.
Pamel
Its 'mostly' standardized. The structure is standardized, so it is usuable. And most of the common tags exist. There are just a few troublesome tags that are being worked on right now. I'm in the middle of moving though so its slow. Once everything is worked out, the plan is to make examples of where everything should be stored so that there isn't confusion once it is widely used.
robUx4
While encoding I noticed that I never reach more than 80% of CPU usage. I suspect it might come from the I/O level (tested under Windows). Maybe you should investigate more on this and you would have even faster encoding on fast machines (I have a rather modest XP 2400+ with an Hitachi 7K250 HD).
ald
QUOTE(Florian)
just wanted to tell you, that my little tagger supports TTA since the latest release.

Thank you for supporting TTA in your project.

QUOTE(robUx4 @ May 27 2004, 11:47 AM)
Apparently you're missing MKA support wink.gif

Nope. I like MKA, but unfortunately I have no time to think about it now.. maybe at Autumn.. ;-)

-- Alexander
http://tta.iszf.irk.ru
robUx4
QUOTE(ald @ May 29 2004, 05:03 PM)
QUOTE(robUx4 @ May 27 2004, 11:47 AM)
Apparently you're missing MKA support wink.gif

Nope. I like MKA, but unfortunately I have no time to think about it now.. maybe at Autumn.. ;-)

Actually that was not for you wink.gif
We'll help you support MKA, or even make it completely (at least in our tools). Most important to have a DirectShow filter that we could easily do once you have a standalone library...

Other news for you, someone made an experimental TTA GStreamer plugin based on the current code.
ald
QUOTE(robUx4 @ May 29 2004, 11:38 AM)
Actually that was not for you wink.gif

Sorry for mistake & thanks for great news.

P/S WinTTA GUI coming soon with a new encoder/decoder library.

-- Alexander
Toff
QUOTE(ald @ May 30 2004, 08:44 AM)
QUOTE(robUx4 @ May 29 2004, 11:38 AM)
Actually that was not for you wink.gif

Sorry for mistake & thanks for great news.

P/S WinTTA GUI coming soon with a new encoder/decoder library.

-- Alexander

Great, I'm looking forward to the new encoder/decoder library.
I already made a DirectShow encoder that works with MKA but it's better to wait for the new library to finish that and do the decoder.
ald
TTA news:

1) TTA input plug-in for Quintessential Player (QCD) is released.
2) TTA compressor version 3.0 for PPC is available for download.

-- Alexander
http://tta.iszf.irk.ru
ald
New TTA releases:

1) New firmware for DVD player Neuston DVX-1201 with True Audio format support:
http://www.neuston.com/en/1201download.asp

2) TTA compressor version 3.1 for Mac OS-X (PPC):
http://tta.iszf.irk.ru/index.php?menu=download

-- Alexander
http://tta.iszf.irk.ru
ald
TTA news again:

TTA encoder/decoder static library version 1.0 beta

ftp://tta.iszf.irk.ru/TTALib-1.0b-static.zip
ftp://tta.iszf.irk.ru/TTALib-1.0b-src.zip

-- Alexander
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