Hi folk!
Now I can not choice between MPC -insane or Ogg Vorbis vbr quality 9. I plane store music on computer, but time to time make copy CD Audio. Please advise me. Music which I prefer Gothic Metal.
With kind regards yup.

To be honest with you I personally can't hear a difference between the two formats at that high of a quality setting on all but the hardest samples. If space isn't a problem for you maybe you should consider a lossless format.

Settings that high for oggenc and mppenc probably won't produce an audible improvement over more reasonable settings. I would instead first try comparing ogg at -q 6 or -q7 and mpc at --standard and --xtreme.

If those aren't good enough, for whatever reason, the next reasonable step is to go lossless. Going with settings any higher than that with ogg or mpc is mostly going to be a waste of bits.

I'd actually start with a lower quality setting than -q 6 or -q 7. See if you can ABX. Move up to the quality level that you can't ABX for either codec and choose which one serves your purposes better.

Hmm... call me biased, but somehow MPC --insane seems a bit much for Gothic Metal, no? Haha. I think for the vast majority of people MPC --standard is already more than enough. You definitely should ABX starting as low as possible. After all, if OGG -q4 sounds like source for you, what's the point of wasting all that disk space?

Just a little note that may not be relevant if disk space is absolutely not a factor but anyway...

I tried ripping some of my cds (mostly Death and Black metal) with various codecs and the bitrate i got (in VBR mode of course) were very high. Ripping with FLAC usually results in bitrate around 900-1000kbps, Lame -APS average 215 to 230kbps, etc...

It might be because of the type of distortion used in most metal, it tends to have a lot of high frequencies in it.

I dunno about MPC, I don't have any experience with it, but Vorbis Q9 is ridiculous. Q5 is Vorbis' benchmark of transparency (like LAME and MPC's standard settings), Q7 is pretty much archival quality. I don't really see any reason to go beyond that.