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Vietwoojagig
Hi,

I want to store my entire CD-Collection as WAV+CUE-Sheeds on a very big Harddisk.
Well, that was not the question.

I want to do it in a way, so that I can easily create out of these files MP3s, AACs, or whatever I like, without too big efford. Like: Selecting all CUEs, selecting destination-Folder, specifying encoder+options, and leaving my Computer for the next week for itself.

Is there an easy way to do so? What do I have to consider?
Polar
QUOTE(Vietwoojagig @ Aug 31 2004, 13:53 UTC)
Hi,
Guten Tag.

QUOTE(Vietwoojagig @ Aug 31 2004, 13:53 UTC)
I want to store my entire CD-Collection as WAV+CUE-Sheeds on a very big Harddisk.
No matter how big your hard disk may be, I see very little reason not to FLAC your audio, especially at any of the faster encoding settings (i.e. -0 to -3). Depending on the musical genre, you'll gain somewhere around 40% of HDD space, with only nominal drawbacks.

QUOTE(Vietwoojagig @ Aug 31 2004, 13:53 UTC)
Well, that was not the question.
Wups, in which case mine won't have been much of an answer either wink.gif I'd still recommend you to look into it, though.
Lyx
QUOTE(Vietwoojagig @ Aug 31 2004, 03:53 PM)
Hi,

I want to store my entire CD-Collection as WAV+CUE-Sheeds on a very big Harddisk.
Well, that was not the question.

I want to do it in a way, so that I can easily create out of these files MP3s, AACs, or whatever I like, without too big efford. Like: Selecting all CUEs, selecting destination-Folder, specifying encoder+options, and leaving my Computer for the next week for itself.

Is there an easy way to do so? What do I have to consider?
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<lossless codec of your choice> + cuesheet

foobar2000 + diskwriter
Vietwoojagig
OK, I tried, what you were suggesting: Installed FLAC and foobar2000.
That's what I did:

CD: "Elton John - Simple Life", 3-Track Maxi CD, 1993

EAC: Create Cue-Sheed, one WAV. Result: "Elton John - 1993 - Simple Life.CUE"
EAC: Create Image, one WAV. Result: "Elton John -1993 - Simple Life.WAV"

FLAC --cuesheet="Elton John - 1993 - Simple Life.CUE" "Elton John - 1993 - Simple Life.WAV"
Result: "Elton John - 1993 - Simple Life.flac"

This file can be played in foobar, each track can be selected. Fine!
But. Foobar only displays Track1, Track2, Track3. No Artist, no Album-Titel, no Track-Title. If I want to create MP3s out of this, it works, but I have to set the Tags mannually. Thats not the solution. Using CUE+WAV shows better results, but I still don't know, how to prouduce the MP3s with the ID3-Tags.

OK. Now the question a little bit more concrete: How can I produce out of the .wav/.flac and .cue, with Foobar or whatever:

Elton John\1993 - Simple Life\01 - Elton John - Simple Life.mp3
Elton John\1993 - Simple Life\02 - Elton John - The Last Song.mp3
Elton John\1993 - Simple Life\03 - Elton John - The North.mp3

And all files have the ID3-Tags "Title", "Artist", "Album-Title", "Track-Number". "Genre" is not needed

Thanks
jimhaddon
Well, to get the tags in foobar, you just need to get the freedb plugin, which will then download the correct tags. Then once you want to convert them in foobar to mp3, the tags will automatically be transferred too. Is this what you were trying to do?
Vietwoojagig
QUOTE(jimhaddon @ Sep 1 2004, 09:49 AM)
Well, to get the tags in foobar, you just need to get the freedb plugin, which will then download the correct tags. Then once you want to convert them in foobar to mp3, the tags will automatically be transferred too. Is this what you were trying to do?
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Maybe. The track-infos are already inside the cue-sheed and get lost during conversion to flac. But I'll try this this evening and report you my progress.
rfarris
QUOTE(jimhaddon @ Sep 1 2004, 01:49 AM)
Well, to get the tags in foobar, you just need to get the freedb plugin, which will then download the correct tags.
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Actually, you don't even have to do that. Instead of loading the flac file into FB2K, load the cue sheet!

One of the "features" of flac is that it does not store tags in its internal cue sheet. It only stores enough information to recreate the original CD.

As long as the cue sheet is in the same directory as the flac file, foobar will figure out that the cue sheet refers to the flac file and will play/transcode seamlessly.
Vietwoojagig
QUOTE(rfarris @ Sep 3 2004, 12:16 AM)
QUOTE(jimhaddon @ Sep 1 2004, 01:49 AM)
Well, to get the tags in foobar, you just need to get the freedb plugin, which will then download the correct tags.
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Actually, you don't even have to do that. Instead of loading the flac file into FB2K, load the cue sheet!

One of the "features" of flac is that it does not store tags in its internal cue sheet. It only stores enough information to recreate the original CD.

As long as the cue sheet is in the same directory as the flac file, foobar will figure out that the cue sheet refers to the flac file and will play/transcode seamlessly.
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Well, cue-sheets don't contain genre or date-information. But I want to store such information in one place, and the cue-sheet seems to me a good place, even if this last in a non-standard cue-format. I could easy write a batch that creates a valid one out of such a file.

It would be great, if foobar would read those lines and add them as meda-data to his database, properties, or wherever foobar stores such information. If such a line is specified even for the album and for the track (e.g. for "DATE") it should add "ALBUM" for the album-meta-date (e.g. "ALBUM DATE", "ALBUM GENRE"). Well, foobar behaves in such a way for "ARTIST" and "ALBUM ARTIST".
Is this possible for the next version? Thanks
ChangFest
QUOTE(Vietwoojagig @ Sep 9 2004, 06:54 AM)
Well, cue-sheets don't contain genre or date-information. But I want to store such information in one place, and the cue-sheet seems to me a good place, even if this last in a non-standard cue-format. I could easy write a batch that creates a valid one out of such a file.
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While cue sheets do not contain genre information, once loaded via the cue sheet into foobar2000, foobar's database (album list) will store all genre and date information. The first time you load a cue sheet into foobar, your files will not contain any genre or date information. After that information is added by you, the information stays in foobar's database so when you load that cue sheet the date and genre information are recalled from the database.
rfarris
QUOTE
While cue sheets do not contain genre information, once loaded via the cue sheet into foobar2000, foobar's database (album list) will store all genre and date information. The first time you load a cue sheet into foobar, your files will not contain any genre or date information. After that information is added by you, the information stays in foobar's database so when you load that cue sheet the date and genre information are recalled from the database.
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Not only will it retain the information in its database, it will also write it back out into the cue sheets (as REM statements, where necessary.)
ChangFest
QUOTE(rfarris @ Sep 9 2004, 10:58 AM)
Not only will it retain the information in its database, it will also write it back out into the cue sheets (as REM statements, where necessary.)
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I've only seen replaygain information written to cuesheets foobar2000 has used.
Vietwoojagig
QUOTE(rfarris @ Sep 9 2004, 07:58 PM)
QUOTE
While cue sheets do not contain genre information, once loaded via the cue sheet into foobar2000, foobar's database (album list) will store all genre and date information. The first time you load a cue sheet into foobar, your files will not contain any genre or date information. After that information is added by you, the information stays in foobar's database so when you load that cue sheet the date and genre information are recalled from the database.
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Not only will it retain the information in its database, it will also write it back out into the cue sheets (as REM statements, where necessary.)
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How does this work, I have tried a lot, but the cue-sheed always stays the same.
eric.cheminot
I also think only replaygain info is stored in the cuesheet (besides the standard track info). Other info is stored in the db and a consequence is that you loose player independance (even using the same player on different machines...).

The only solution I see is to rip on a track basis. If you really want a CUE for later re-burn, export on using EAC (best setting IMHO is single wav), then when needed transcode all the lossles compressed files into 1 WAV file: you'll have your CUE+WAV.
PoisonDan
I haven't tried it myself yet, but foo_cue_ex should allow you to store all tags (including genre and date) in the CUE sheet.
Vietwoojagig
QUOTE(PoisonDan @ Sep 10 2004, 12:15 PM)
I haven't tried it myself yet, but foo_cue_ex should allow you to store all tags (including genre and date) in the CUE sheet.
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From the specification, this sounds exactly like the things I'm searching for. I try later and tell you, how it works
rfarris
QUOTE(ChangFest @ Sep 9 2004, 12:42 PM)
I've only seen replaygain information written to cuesheets foobar2000 has used.
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Isn't that what we're talking about here, FB2K?


QUOTE(Vietwoojagig @ Sep 10 2004, 12:33 AM)
How does this work, I have tried a lot, but the cue-sheed always stays the same.
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Remember, we're talking about external cue sheets, not the one embedded in the flac file.

Here's an example of a cue sheet I loaded into FB2K and then replay-gained:
CODE
PERFORMER "Acoustic Alchemy"
TITLE "Red Dust & Spanish Lace"
REM REPLAYGAIN_ALBUM_GAIN +2.09 dB
REM REPLAYGAIN_ALBUM_PEAK 0.964324
FILE "Acoustic Alchemy - 1987 - Red Dust & Spanish Lace.wav" WAVE
 TRACK 01 AUDIO
   TITLE "Mr. Chow"
   PERFORMER "Acoustic Alchemy"
   INDEX 01 00:00:00
   REM REPLAYGAIN_TRACK_GAIN +1.33 dB
   REM REPLAYGAIN_TRACK_PEAK 0.964324
 TRACK 02 AUDIO
   TITLE "Ricochet"
...

This is all stock Foobar -- no special dlls.
ChangFest
QUOTE(rfarris @ Sep 10 2004, 09:51 AM)
QUOTE(ChangFest @ Sep 9 2004, 12:42 PM)
I've only seen replaygain information written to cuesheets foobar2000 has used.
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Isn't that what we're talking about here, FB2K?
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Yes, but the original poster wanted to add genre and date information to the cue sheet.



EDIT: Can't speel
Vietwoojagig
QUOTE(PoisonDan @ Sep 10 2004, 12:15 PM)
I haven't tried it myself yet, but foo_cue_ex should allow you to store all tags (including genre and date) in the CUE sheet.
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I have tried it, but it don't seem to work for me. Don't see any changes to foobar in its behaviour, as foobar without that plugin. But foobar says, that it has been loaded!
Has someone tested it and can someone give me advice how to work with this plug-in?

Thanks
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