A lot of time is spent on inserting the proper info in the proper tags when backing up audio cd:s. As compression algorithms are developing and becomes fine-tuned, the need of re-ripping and encoding becomes bigger and bigger.

I'm looking for a tool that can take the existing tags of let's say mp3 files and apply them to my freshly coded ogg vorbis files. I also assume quite many people would like to re-encode Vorbis RCx to the final version of the format without having to enter all the custom tags again.

I found a way of doing Ogg to Ogg with WinVorbis where you can open a file with tags and "freeze" them over all files in the same directory. However, quite often there are different composers involved in the different tracks so the use is quite limited.

Has anyone else found a need for this?

A somewhat related thread:
http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/showth...preserving+tags

for the future I started saving my batch command-lines for TAG so I can always aply them to what ever file I would wish.

If you mean convert from say MP3 to Ogg, and your MP3 tags are perfect, I highly suggest dBPowerAMP, as it is free and does a great job of carrying over MP3 tags to Ogg. But of course there's really no need to convert since the new ogg will not sound any better than the original MP3. And of course converting from one lossy format to another is never recommended. You can find this program here:
http://www.dbpoweramp.com/dmc.htm

If you are reripping, from source CD, why not just use WinVorbis to do the tagging (and encoding) all in batch? Here is how I do it:

Rip the CD to filenames which have all the info you want, for example I do:
"Artist_Album_Track#_Title_Year_Genre.wav"

Your WinVorbis filename scan template looks like this:
%a_%l_%n_%t_%d_%g

Then you change the output filename template to whatever you want. I do Artist_Album_Track#_Title (%a_%l_%N_%t), but you can do anything you want. The capital N tells it to add a leading 0 to the track number if less than 10.

You can also add any extra user tags which are constant for all songs/albums. For example, I put "Comment=Ripped by bjay" and "Encoded=Ogg Vorbis 1.0 Quality 7.0". Of course you put whatever you want.

Now when you open a bunch of wav files, all the tags will be filled in correctly when you encode. Actually its quite simple, you only have to set it up once, and from then on all you do is rip, load wav in WinVorbis, and hit the save/encode button.

If you happen to use EAC, you can use an external program (oggenc.exe) to do the ripping and tagging all in one shot. Under compression options, choose external program, point it to the location of oggenc.exe, tell it "Ogg Vorbis Encoder" as type, and type the following in the additional command line options field:
-q 7 -c "Comment=Ripped by bjay" -c "Encoded=Ogg Vorbis 1.0 Quality 7.0"

Of course you change quality and other static tag settings as you wish. The reason I hardcoded the quality was because EAC (v0.9 beta 4) doesn't pass the correct quality setting on to oggenc. For example, if I choose Quality 7, EAC passes along VBR 218 kbps, which is not accurate, since Q7 is 224 kbps VBR.

Hope this helps you!

-- bjay

Ok, I'll try to explain myself a bit more clear

I might be a pervert, but i like having my soundfiles tagged as good as possible with the composer, text author, producer and so on - for each file/track. And now the point: Since they differ a lot (especially on compilations), you cannot do so much pre-work for the tagging in let's say EAC or WinVorbis. Only the basic tagging.

dBPowerAmp is an excellent tool, but it cannot (afaik) take the tags from lets say ogg files and apply it to a set of no-tagged ogg files. The point of transcoding from mp3 to ogg is none.

Jan S: Your way might be the only way to go at the moment. That's at least a solution when encoding new files. The old tags are still a problem

The tool to dream of would be something like this:
Select the new soundfiles (could be mp3, ogg, mpc, aac and so on) with empty tags and let the tag _source_ be the old set of soundfiles tags (also mp3, ogg, mpc, aac and so on).

Emanuel

If it is the same tagging system I believe helium2 (www.helium2.com) has an option to export your tag to a file and then afterwards import it to another.
I don't know though if this tool only works for mp3 files and id3 tag even though helium2 do support ogg.

Tag allows doing this for one file at a time. You could write some script that processed multiple files.

I didn't know that.
Then you could just write a batch file if it's not THAT many files.