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Garf
At the IBC 2004 exhibition in Amsterdam, Ahead Software announced the availability of VHDL cores for decoding Nero Digital Audio, and demonstrated several prototypes.

The chips support the full range of LC AAC, HE AAC and PS AAC audio playback, feature a built-in equalizer, and are additionaly available in very low cost versions.

http://www.nero.com/en/conventions.html

Furthermore optimized decoders for various DSP platforms are available.

This will further open up the possibilities for full NeroDigital MPEG 4 AAC support in a wide range of portable and standalone devices.
eagleray
Good deal, as this will provide alternative for consumers.
SirGrey
Good news.
I hope, iRiver and others will use it...
Sebastian Mares
What exactly does it cost?
menno
QUOTE(Sebastian Mares @ Sep 18 2004, 05:44 PM)
What exactly does it cost?
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The chip can be produced for under 10 euro (given that you produce a lot (750k or so)).

Menno
lexor
That's a good development, but are there any Brand Name manufacturers considering these chips? By brand name I mean Panasonic, JVC, Philips etc.
mdmuir
I am hoping these chips show up in portable cd players as well as flash or HD based music portables. I am tired of portable cd players only supporting CDA, mp3, and /or wma exclusively. I would love to make usable aac cds for portable use.
sven_Bent
look something usefull for a new generation ipod.

wuld be nice with seom HE-AAC and PS-AAC

btw whne its say all levels of AAc does tha include main and ltp ?
Garf
QUOTE(sven_Bent @ Sep 21 2004, 12:58 PM)
btw whne its say all levels of AAc does tha include main and ltp ?
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That's not what I meant. Obviously those won't supported smile.gif

It's "the full range of LC AAC, HE AAC, PS AAC and DRM AAC".
Ariakis
What about the container? Are the chips able to read the AAC stream from an .mp4 file, or will the host device be responsible for stripping the container (if it chooses to support it at all)?
ErikS
QUOTE(menno @ Sep 18 2004, 07:44 PM)
QUOTE(Sebastian Mares @ Sep 18 2004, 05:44 PM)
What exactly does it cost?
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The chip can be produced for under 10 euro (given that you produce a lot (750k or so)).

Menno
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Which technologies have you targeted? Do you have layouts for some processes or you just synthesise that from the vhdl core when you get an order? Do you have working samples in silicon yet (asic, not fpga)?
menno
QUOTE(ErikS @ Sep 21 2004, 02:50 PM)
Which technologies have you targeted? Do you have layouts for some processes or you just synthesise that from the vhdl core when you get an order? Do you have working samples in silicon yet (asic, not fpga)?
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We only have prototype in FPGA currently. We're not at the point of doing a layout yet.

Menno
JohnV
A bit off-topic but this is another Nero Digital hardware related news:
ESS Technology Adds Nero Digital Support to Its Vibratto II DVD Solutions:
http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/040921/sftu046_1.html
DonP
For those not clued in to the jargon, what they are selling is an element of a chip design, not a completed chip ready to drop into a player.

From the web link, it includes hard-wired DRM and only decodes Nero AAC. Does Nero have enough dominance in the encoder market that that you can sell hardware that won't play with other AAC encoders?

For what most people condider to be a digital music player you will stil need to support other formats like mp3, so there will be more to the total design than a core that plays AAC.

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The chip can be produced for under 10 euro (given that you produce a lot (750k or so)).



Will there be enough market for a single manufacturer to make 3/4 million of a single design version?
Gabriel
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From the web link, it includes hard-wired DRM and only decodes Nero AAC. Does Nero have enough dominance in the encoder market that that you can sell hardware that won't play with other AAC encoders?

Where did you seen that? I only see references to Digital Radio Mondiale...
DonP
QUOTE(Gabriel @ Oct 26 2004, 06:46 AM)
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From the web link, it includes hard-wired DRM

Where did you seen that? I only see references to Digital Radio Mondiale...
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