Hello everybody...

I know this doesn't fit into "high quality listening"... but I was wondering if anybody around here uses any WinAmp DSP plugin that they like...

For casual listening they can be fun, or even enjoyable...

Give me some recommendations! :listen:

iZotope Vinyl: www.izotope.com - i used to play around with it - makes Your clips sound ...distorted, but somewhat cool

http://www.geocities.com/i_adryan

I don't use it but it's very good.

Dee which is just a standard audio plug-in (bass, trebble, and junk) like DFX, but free.

Pacemaker. I find some chilidsh joy cranking the tempo upto 200% and listening to a song.

the problem is, the following plugins are only good for Techno, bad for voices

iZotope Ozone for Winamp v1.0 retail (http://www.izotope.com/)
or
SoftAmp - VirtualSound (http://www.softamp.com/new_home.html)

at last high quality mp3's/oggs/aac/mp+ are better

adaptx (search winamp's plugin site because I don't remember the url) which, if you don't know is a dsp plugin to allow the use of DirectX plugins in winamp. I use it to be able to use Sonic Foundry's Dither DirectX plugin in winamp, it's the best dither I've used so far.

Try cranking the tempo up about a half note (maybe 2%-5%) when listening to instrumental stuff, adds an interesting sparkle & extra life to music. My old turntable ran a little too fast, and I thought some music actually sounded better than way .

I tried using AdaptX but it kept crashing on me. Is there a newer version, or am I doing something wrong?

Compressor & Wider Plugin if you want "punchy" sound for "fun" listening or partys (but no more than that).

I use the medium preset with "reduce distortions" enabled, and a lowered maximum amplification of 2.5-3.0x, so it doesn't squeeze out *all* the dynamics and doesn't make the quiet parts (which can be heavily amplified without causing too many distortions) louder than the noisy, bassy parts.

Please don't shoot me, if I want "real" listening, I turn it off.

CU

Dominic

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Hey I use that too

I'm curious, what do you use that dither plugin for?

I use it when I edit files in Sound Forge and in my opinion it produces very good results so being able to use it on-the-fly with files that I haven't edited, is a very good thing.

Thanks for the advice!

Dee and Enhancer work very well! And so does the Compressor & Wider plugin (for what it's good for, of course ).

I had been browsing the WinAmpdotcom plugin pages, but the comments there are so totally useless...

OT: These comments about "dithering"... Someone is thinking about the ff123's MAD vs WinAmp decoder challenge... Least significant bit difference... (unless that DirectX Dither plugin also does resampling to a different frequency, I am betting on some "placebo" going on here... ).

I was curious about the dither plugin, because dither is only necessary when doing bitdepth reduction (24 -> 16 for example).

About plugins, Now I have some interest in the RealReverb convolution plugin, because it allows you to implement any kind of filter you want, as long as you have any equipment capable of producing that filter (analog eq., wave editor, etc.). The bad thing is that the convolution process makes quite worse the final signal dynamic range.

Oh, yeah, sorry. I was mistaken because what I used to do when working with Cool Edit Pro was:
16bit 48000Hz -> 32bit 48000Hz -> 32bit 44100Hz -> 16bit 44100Hz
Supposedly kept a better quality, because of using 32bit precission instead of 16bit in the resampling...

But yes, I meant the bitdepth reduction (although sleepiness got me a little confused having just arrived to the office at the time of posting... )

I find that it gives awesome quality, and lots of options for improvement of the music.

I love the presets...

Let's choose a precise example: I load the preset "Closer sound". But I would like to get a more "ooomph"-y sound (that is: stronger bass), because everything else is very nice.

So I turn up the Harmonic Bass and the Drum Bass sliders... so it feels stronger in bass sounds, but... it's because everything else is sounding a lot quieter!

So I think I am not getting the way to use those bass sliders... The help file doesn't help either... Any hints from anybody that uses it???

Thanks!

No!
Not a chance, I'd never want to screw up my sound like that - but for those who don't care about that, vinyl people etc. it oughta be cool

I know... I was all the time talking about some casual playing around... Not for ABX tests

for Enh 0.17:

my settings, from top to bottom:

Volume 5, H Bass 3, HB Range 2, Drum Bass 3, DB Range 5, Dry 9, Treble 5, HT Range 2, Ambience 2, Ambience range 5; Boost Enabled.

Don't worry, my comment was not aimed to yours, I quite agree with your comments

/me's setup:
out_ds_SSRC v2.1.4 -> Winamp (ALL EQ disabled & NO EFFECTS) -> SBLive! -> AMP (Flat EQ NO Loudness + Subsonic Filter)
I always listen flat because I'm used to it, and the sound is not damaged on the way

A simple DSP plug-in like Dee can go a long way towards improving the sound for those who are still stuck using the half-assed speakers that come with a PC.

Well, I can seriously recommend DFX 6

DEE sounded just too awful for me and Enhancer 0.17 was simply too buggy and not mature enough.

But I don't use DFX all the time, only with silent files with too few dynamics. DFX renders just nice fidelity and sounds professional enough to be more than a toy.

I haven't tried the other plugins, they may be better perhaps, but I didn't like these 1000 configuring options. With DFX you have 6 pretty self-explaining sliders so you can easily create your own setups. And DFX has some really sexy skins (more of them on their website) if that is a matter to you...

Give it a try, I don't think you'll regret it...

http://www.fxsound.com

The best combo I have found to enhance mp3s etc is to use these two plugins:

1. Adapt-X DirectX plugin adapter 3.5, FREE $$$:
http://jobsearch.chez.tiscali.fr/adaptx.htm
http://www.winamp.com/components/detail.jh...mponentId=97671

This allows you to use all kinds of professinal directx plugins in winamp.

2. BBE Sonic Maximizer plugin, 129 $$
http://www.virsonix.com/

This delays lower frequencies so that low fequencies reach the ear at precisely the same instant as do the higher frequencies, and is done to counter a phasing effect inherent in all speakers. This gives clarity and definition. It also boosts the extreme lows and extreme highs that speakers tend to loose. This gives tight bass and sparkle.

Together these to plugins really shine.

For a cheaper and almost as good route, check out Arboretum's realizer and realizer plus:

http://www.arboretum.com/S20_products/S27_...72PRODINFO.html
http://www.arboretum.com/S20_products/S29_...92PRODINFO.html

I use SHibatch Super Equalizer to correct my speakers filters, that are 1.5 db wrong, and to kill a bass resonance in my room. I'll never use any other DSP.

Using adaptx with the waves plug ins- studio quality plug ins , using Rbass (like having a 12 '' sub) + rcompressor for poorly recorded music and then a L2 maximizer witch have a auto release control .
usualy rbass after the compressor , there is also a linear eq sometimes ..

Using MAD with an audigy, and waves dsp sounds awesome !
cause i have a good stereo in a little room.

I can understand why you woudn't want to play around the sound i.e big room big speakers , very good amp ect ect, but until i i have a lot of $$ i'm using dsp's in winamp they rocks !



When adaptsx x is crashing again and again what you need to do is to go in your winamp plugin and delete the AdaptX.cfg file should work ok after that !


And I heard that the adaptx is gonna work with media player 9 (awesome ! movies with directx dsp ! )


Try the demo for waves plugs (directx plugs) from the official waves site You 'll need adaptx

here is a bundle with rcompressor and rbass Awesome ! Renaissance bundle demo (5 meg)

Waves Master Bundle demo 8 m[

i use Adapt-X ( http://jobsearch.chez.tiscali.fr/adaptx.htm ) with some Waves plugins, usually MaxxBass and L2 and sometimes C4.

I don't use any anymore since they seem to always introduce way too much distortion for my taste. I just listen to the audio flat without any enhancements, no e.q. tweeking, nothing.

Best, MuchFX DFX4 + Dee1 early versions.

Also DFX5, Dee2.

i saw that some people enjoy using the Compressor and Wider plugin by M. Pesch. this seems to be a single band compressor plugin and i was wondering why people choose to use a single band compressor over something like AudioStocker which is a multiband compressor?