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popatr
foobar 0.8.3:
I get the following impressions when using foo_burninate

I installed a trial version of nero (63115) a long time ago expressly for the purpose of enabling foo_burninate, and the trial has long since expired. Foobar continued to be able to write disks though, if a little slowly. It gave me the impression that the drivers were willing to continue to work, but were holding back performance deliberately to get you to register. (is this true?)

Going on this impression I obtained a nero serial from dubious sources, and activated nero. Nero seemed happy with the serial, worked great. (I don't really ever use nero though, only for foobar) Then I went to try to burn a disk in foobar. It did indeed seem to go faster, seemingly supporting my theory about the intentionally slow burning... but about a third of the way through, the disk stopped writing... the disk stayed spun up and foobar froze.

I set things back up and tried again, with the same effect. I grumbled as I took the two wasted disks to the trash can. Theorizing that the thing had gone too fast, I went into CD Writer configuration to see if I could slow it down. But whether there was a blank disk in the tray or not, I could only choose maximum speed. (What is that speed choice for anyway, since I can't see any choices?) So I uninstalled nero, reinstalled it without activating it, and life went back to the safe slow burning.

I was satisfied with that for a long time, but one day I wanted a disk copied so I reactivated nero. Some time later, I forgot about it and tried burning something from foobar, again with the failed burn. I googled for help, and got a 2003 thread which reported similar but different problems, so I installed the debug version of burninate that was there-- looking for errors about nero or about invalid serials, but there was no error info. I put back the normal version of burninate, did a nero update to 63125, and after that a disk seemed to successfully burn pretty fast, though there was a scary moment when I thought it would fail. I haven't tried again, I'm scared of wasting disks and I don't really have anything I even want burned anyway.

But has this happened to other people?

Edit: Another failed disk under my belt, just tried it
Jan S.
1. Don't expect developers to fix issues with your illegal software.
2. We do not want to promote pirating software thus don't want discussion of how to fix problems with them here.
3. Get some cdrws to test with.
popatr
I get what you are saying. Thanks at least for suggestion #3...

So, can I assume that if I purchase Nero this problem goes bye-bye? (I don't really think so, and the cost for the experiment is too high)

Can people with legally activated nero's confirm that burninate works well?

Are there other burning plugins to try?
rotjong
QUOTE(popatr @ Sep 22 2004, 10:44 PM)
Can people with legally activated nero's confirm that burninate works well?


I don't use foobar to burn CDs often but I've never had it freeze or lock up my system.

rotjong
AstreaEdge
I've had no problems with either legal or illicit Nero. Well, other than Foobar appearing to hold on to the memory used for the temporary decoded audio data. Of course I can't really confirm this since I'm only basing it on what Task Manager reports as the VM size of foobar2000.exe. Currently, I'm using legal 6.3.0.0 but I've used it with older versions and newer versions, both legit and "astalavistaed."

I've never had the problems you've encountered regardless of version or legitimacy.

SOP for diagnosing problems with Foobar plugins seems to be:
- make sure you have no problematic 3rd party plugs installed
- better yet, use a fresh install with the minimum you need (install to a new dir as necessary)
- mess with things till they work smile.gif

With Nero, I would suggest that you use CD-RWs to confirm that the program works without fault outside of Foobar burning audio CDs, not just data discs. Also make sure that the firmware in your drive is up to date. On occasions, burner firmware updates will solve many errors caused by problem media.

You might also want to try using the image recorder (which you can specify within Foobar or Nero) to remove your burner from the equation. If it works with the image recorder then there is a much stronger possibility that the problem is between Nero and your burner instead of Foobar and Nero.
popatr
QUOTE(AstreaEdge @ Sep 22 2004, 08:33 PM)
I've had no problems with either legal or illicit Nero. Well, other than Foobar appearing to hold on to the memory used for the temporary decoded audio data. Of course I can't really confirm this since I'm only basing it on what Task Manager reports as the VM size of foobar2000.exe. Currently, I'm using legal 6.3.0.0 but I've used it with older versions and newer versions, both legit and "astalavistaed."

I've never had the problems you've encountered regardless of version or legitimacy.

SOP for diagnosing problems with Foobar plugins seems to be:
- make sure you have no problematic 3rd party plugs installed
- better yet, use a fresh install with the minimum you need (install to a new dir as necessary)
- mess with things till they work smile.gif

With Nero, I would suggest that you use CD-RWs to confirm that the program works without fault outside of Foobar burning audio CDs, not just data discs. Also make sure that the firmware in your drive is up to date. On occasions, burner firmware updates will solve many errors caused by problem media.

You might also want to try using the image recorder (which you can specify within Foobar or Nero) to remove your burner from the equation. If it works with the image recorder then there is a much stronger possibility that the problem is between Nero and your burner instead of Foobar and Nero.
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Thanks for those suggestions, I'll definitely try them.
XxAlchEmysTxX
actually the Nero ASPI is free . anyone may download it and use it without a license. you just can't redistribute it with your software.

Nero ASPI

but burniate must be changed to look for the aspi in the same directory.
then people just download the free aspi.


have used other programs this way and works just fine.
Bart's Bootable CD being one example.
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